Based on all of the old school Raider fans I've talked to, there's some definite truth to this. We were seen as a fan base similar to the Steelers. Oakland fans were seen as hard nosed and blue collar, than L.A. happened, and the Raiders began to be associated with street gangs. NWA sporting Raider gear did more to hurt the team than do it good. The Raiders are still trying to fight the "thug" image. Trask has been asking the NFL cameras to mostly show kids during pre-commercial fan shots. Personally, as a fan, I'm sick of the violent image we're stuck with.