Did the Raiders get their bad-boy, tough-guy image, reputation from L.A.?

[Eastbay39]

Here's something I never understood about gangs; why do they fight, kill, and die for some of the most disgustingly terrible neighborhoods in America? Wouldn't you rather fight, kill, and die trying to get out of a neighborhood like that? Oh well, I guess I'm just not "gangsta."

Why would someone also tag up or sell drugs in the neighborhood they claim to love? I don't think logic and gang banging go hand in hand.

[HorrorSCope]

Team rep: Hell No. That was established beyond debate in Oakland.

Bad fan rep... LA definitely enhanced that.

[Rainman56]

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I think this vid sheds some light on the subject

[BelongInOakland]

Team rep: Hell No. That was established beyond debate in Oakland.

Bad fan rep... LA definitely enhanced that.

Yeah, the fan reputation, the gang-member, cholo association with the Raiders, i can definetley see that started in L.A.

[RaidahFoaLife!]

The answer is this:

They got the Gang bang, loser, wanna be tough guy, jumping someone 30-1, stealing, vandal, acting drunk and stupid internet thuggin, hubcap stealing, purse snatching image from L.A

They got their Tough, Bad-Boy, hit hard, hard nose, seek and destroy, party hard play hard, mean and nasty, gritty, blue collar, just down right badd ass to the bone image from Oakland.

There you have it, real true facts baby!!!

nuff said.

[Raider Ran]

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I think this vid sheds some light on the subject

This and the Rebels of Oakland tells the whole story. BTW all these guys were still the same today. Phil V, Snake, Skip (RIP), the list goes on and on No Question the Team Bad Boy Image started in Oakland anyone who disagrees is just too young to remember or are in denial.

[Lestermahoney]

the fans, my bad, i should have been more specific about that, sorry.

I think it was quite obvious in the OP. For those questioning your age...I guess it wasn't

[Lestermahoney]

The 1967 game was one of the most vicious in Jet history. Namath was slugged to the turf; he was hit late, punched in the groin. They aimed for his knees, tried to step on his hands ... And Davidson got Namath. He got him on a rollout, with a right that started somewhere between [California cities] Hayward and Alameda. It knocked Namath's helmet flying, and broke his jaw, but Namath didn't miss a play, and he threw for 370 yards and three TD's in that 38–27 loss. (Raiders Victory)

Glad to see this story in print. I've told it a couple of times and each time I tell it it seems a little less believable.

In order to be a bad ass you need to compete and prove yourself against other bad ass teams and players. Namath was bad ass.

Another bad ass, Hewritt Dixon used to club tacklers with his free arm. once delivered a vicious uppercut and was called for a personal foul. I've heard Shula tell the same story about Csonka, and claim that he's the first and only....not true.

Dude, you get a rep for mentioning the first Raider player I admired - Hewritt Dixon. Those were the days, baby!

[TerryDizzle]

all that matters is us..the nation..

what we feel who we are...we know the truth...

others will take everything roll it into one view and go with it picking what they can to talk smack...its sports ..its what fans do..

alot of people talk smack about our rep..but i tell you..each one wishes they were apart of this gangster or not...look at the players that come in and all of them say the same thing...i wanted to be apart of the nation ..the silver and black..

in this new era of Raider football..i believe the cream is rising to the top...

the idiots will disappear...in due time...and the old school tuff Raiders will still be here standing tall...

[Cp3+Dmac=SB!]

Yes

[LINQ]

Screw the bad boy image, I want the image of a winner.

[SLVR&BLK_BKEYE]

The answer is this:

They got the Gang bang, loser, wanna be tough guy, jumping someone 30-1, stealing, vandal, acting drunk and stupid internet thuggin, hubcap stealing, purse snatching image from L.A

They got their Tough, Bad-Boy, hit hard, hard nose, seek and destroy, party hard play hard, mean and nasty, gritty, blue collar, just down right badd ass to the bone image from Oakland.

There you have it, real true facts baby!!!

Smh I bet you think all Los Angeles based Raiders fans are like that right? Typical "norteno" Raider fan.

[cheapshotartist]

This and the Rebels of Oakland tells the whole story. BTW all these guys were still the same today. Phil V, Snake, Skip (RIP), the list goes on and on No Question the Team Bad Boy Image started in Oakland anyone who disagrees is just too young to remember or are in denial.

^^^THIS^^^

[LongieR8er]

Smh I bet you think all Los Angeles based Raiders fans are like that right? Typical "norteno" Raider fan.

Alot of Raider fans from up north act like L.A. never happened, Hater's gonna Hate !!!!!!!

[LongieR8er]

Yeah, the fan reputation, the gang-member, cholo association with the Raiders, i can definetley see that started in L.A.

B.S. !!!!!! What there were no gangs in oakland in the 60's or 70's ?