Did the Raiders get their bad-boy, tough-guy image, reputation from L.A.?

[Sacguy74]

and what sucks is that it's just another reminder of how close I am to fossil-hood,lol.

Haha, I hear you my man. Its sneaking up on me as well.

[dezcruel]

Haha, I hear you my man. Its sneaking up on me as well.

the upside is we lived through the best years and grew up with the classic all time teams!!

[Sacguy74]

the upside is we lived through the best years and grew up with the classic all time teams!!

Hell yea, Oakland had the highest win% in all pro sports into my 20's.

[cheapshotartist]

This was not an anomaly. This was a nightly thing for most of the players in the mid 60's and 70's.

Word, I remember the Snake showing up just before the game still drunk and throwing up in the huddle then throwing four TD passes. Freddie B and Sistrunk smoking on the bench during the game. The Stork showing up at practice riding a horse with a Nazi helmet on, man I miss those days.

[danax]

The answer is this:

They got the Gang bang, loser, wanna be tough guy, jumping someone 30-1, stealing, vandal, acting drunk and stupid internet thuggin, hubcap stealing, purse snatching image from L.A

They got their Tough, Bad-Boy, hit hard, hard nose, seek and destroy, party hard play hard, mean and nasty, gritty, blue collar, just down right badd ass to the bone image from Oakland.

There you have it, real true facts baby!!!

Yep. First game I went to was in 1970 when I was a kid in Oakland. Oakland fans were blue collar drinking types. Lots of booster clubs were formed in local bars (like where my parents hung out sometimes). Good, clean fun. I moved to LA in 1980 and saw that whole deal where the numerous gang types, real and pretend, were flourishing and took to the Raiders, partly due to the uniform, logo and colors being gang neutral (not red or blue). Then, somewhere in there, the costumed freak show happened with the "dark side" stuff. I think Al Davis was wondering to himself what the hell happened, but it was all good I suppose.

[Raider Ran]

Word, I remember the Snake showing up just before the game still drunk and throwing up in the huddle then throwing four TD passes. Freddie B and Sistrunk smoking on the bench during the game. The Stork showing up at practice riding a horse with a Nazi helmet on, man I miss those days.

He might have left the bar drinking with me

[Worrier]

The 1967 game was one of the most vicious in Jet history. Namath was slugged to the turf; he was hit late, punched in the groin. They aimed for his knees, tried to step on his hands ... And Davidson got Namath. He got him on a rollout, with a right that started somewhere between [California cities] Hayward and Alameda. It knocked Namath's helmet flying, and broke his jaw, but Namath didn't miss a play, and he threw for 370 yards and three TD's in that 38–27 loss. (Raiders Victory)

Glad to see this story in print. I've told it a couple of times and each time I tell it it seems a little less believable.

In order to be a bad ass you need to compete and prove yourself against other bad ass teams and players. Namath was bad ass.

Another bad ass, Hewritt Dixon used to club tacklers with his free arm. once delivered a vicious uppercut and was called for a personal foul. I've heard Shula tell the same story about Csonka, and claim that he's the first and only....not true.

[JUSTautumnWINd]

Oakland has a bit of a reputation itself.

[Idaho Raider]

Another bad ass, Hewritt Dixon used to club tacklers with his free arm. once delivered a vicious uppercut and was called for a personal foul. I've heard Shula tell the same story about Csonka, and claim that he's the first and only....not true.

I had forgotten all about that. Not an easy thing to do back then, getting called for a personal foul while you were carrying the ball. I can't remember when or where. I would sure like to see it.

[Rainman56]

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The Steelers sued the Oakland Raiders in court because Atkinson and Tatum kept *ucking up Lynn Swan's limp wristed azz. Their HC Chuck Knoll called our defense a bunch of thugs and cheapshotartist, (hence my screen name) talking about the kettle calling the skillet black. The Hell's Angels National Headquarters is in East Oakland, why can't they go to a home football game?

Yep,Knoll calling Atkinson and Tatum the "criminal element"...*&^%in Sqeeler pussies.

[RAIDERWILLIEnNY]

The answer is this:

They got the Gang bang, loser, wanna be tough guy, jumping someone 30-1, stealing, vandal, acting drunk and stupid internet thuggin, hubcap stealing, purse snatching image from L.A

They got their Tough, Bad-Boy, hit hard, hard nose, seek and destroy, party hard play hard, mean and nasty, gritty, blue collar, just down right badd ass to the bone image from Oakland.

There you have it, real true facts baby!!!

NAILED IT!!! Couldn't have said it better.

[the_new_Jerry]

Simple: Al Davis.

No argument. Move on.

[TonyHighRoller]

They got it from Oakland

[cheapshotartist]

the upside is we lived through the best years and grew up with the classic all time teams!!

Word, this is why all this losing pisses me off, I remember when not winning the division was considered a losing season.

He might have left the bar drinking with me

No comment.

Yep,Knoll calling Atkinson and Tatum the "criminal element"...*&^%in Sqeeler pussies.

Word.

[toobs cruiser]

Here's something I never understood about gangs; why do they fight, kill, and die for some of the most disgustingly terrible neighborhoods in America? Wouldn't you rather fight, kill, and die trying to get out of a neighborhood like that? Oh well, I guess I'm just not "gangsta."