Why is California the hardest, toughest, most difficult state in America to get a Pro

**BelongInOakland** · 05-29-2012, 05:48 PM

Professional Sports Stadium, Arena, Venue built, and just get any new additions to a Stadium, Arena, Venue? Because 3 of the the 4 oldest NFL stadiums in the entire league are all in California, and Yes i'm completely aware of the fact, recent news that the 49ers finally broke ground on a new stadium in Santa Clara, but still, the fact it took this long shows California is definetley unlike elsewhere, anywhere else.

Thats why L.A. is still without an NFL team, why the Raiders left Oakland temporarily in the first place and thats why the Raiders moved back to Oakland in the first place, and why the Rams moved to St. Louis, and there are still rumors of the Raiders moving back to L.A.

Also, the Chargers have been trying to get a new stadium built for a while too, and it's the same-thing for MLB, 3 of the 5 oldest MLB stadiums are all in California, that being the Dodgers, Angels, A's.
So, what gives? what is the specific, logical reason why? Why did the Coliseum Commission betray Al Davis, they promised Al Davis some renovations to the Coliseum in L.A. but they never fulfilled that promise, why? how come? Now don't get me wrong, i'm glad the Raiders are back in Oakland where they belong, but L.A. should at least have the Rams, or a different NFL team so that way the fans down there don't always have to commute to San Diego or up to the Bay Area all the time to see the Raiders play or their favorite NFL team play. So why is California like this?

**nocrabshere** · 05-29-2012, 05:58 PM

it called jerry brown

**darkvenom1972** · 05-29-2012, 05:59 PM

Originally Posted by BelongInOakland

Professional Sports Stadium, Arena, Venue built, and just get any new additions to a Stadium, Arena, Venue? Because 3 of the the 4 oldest NFL stadiums in the entire league are all in California, and Yes i'm completely aware of the fact, recent news that the 49ers finally broke ground on a new stadium in Santa Clara, but still, the fact it took this long shows California is definetley unlike elsewhere, anywhere else. Thats why L.A. is still without an NFL team, why the Raiders left Oakland temporarily in the first place and thats why the Raiders moved back to Oakland in the first place, and why the Rams moved to St. Louis, and there are still rumors of the Raiders moving back to L.A.
Also, the Chargers have been trying to get a new stadium built for a while too, and it's the same-thing for MLB, 3 of the 5 oldest MLB stadiums are all in California, that being the Dodgers, Angels, A's.
So, what gives? what is the specific, logical reason why?

Because California is broke, broke, broke.
Jerry Brown On California Budget Shortfall: 'We Will Have To Go Much Farther' With Cuts (VIDEO)

And the cities where the teams are located are broke, broke, broke.
Los Angeles Area Chamber of Commerce - L.A. Budget Deficit is Not Temporary
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Also, sports are not as big of a deal from what I hear to residents in California. There are way more things to do in California than there are in Oklahoma for example. Hell, Los Angeles isn't even that concerned with getting a new team, because the support is not there.

**smucky** · 05-29-2012, 06:06 PM

I live I Los Angeles, and although I'd like a franchise to ............oh, snap! There goes another bikini.

**Raidermofojeff** · 05-29-2012, 06:34 PM

Taxes have better uses.....

**LINQ** · 05-29-2012, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by Raidermofojeff

Taxes have better uses.....

Absolutely true.

**SLVR and Black** · 05-29-2012, 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by darkvenom1972

Also, sports are not as big of a deal from what I hear to residents in California. There are way more things to do in California than there are in Oklahoma for example.

Also, we have a higher percentage of people in CA who are from somewhere else and don't have strong attachments to local teams.

**toobs cruiser** · 05-29-2012, 08:12 PM

Originally Posted by Raidermofojeff

Taxes have better uses.....

Like free handouts to people who don't want to work. This state has too many parasites.

**101proofRdrFan** · 05-29-2012, 08:26 PM

Originally Posted by toobs cruiser

Like free handouts to people who don't want to work. This state has too many parasites.

Ive been all over. The parasites are nationwide. You hear about the life long unemployment recipeants being cut off today? Its a start.

**101proofRdrFan** · 05-29-2012, 08:30 PM

Also, sports are not as big of a deal from what I hear to residents in California. There are way more things to do in California than there are in Oklahoma for example. Hell, Los Angeles isn't even that concerned with getting a new team, because the support is not there.[/QUOTE]

Anyone whos been to Alabama can testify to this. Crimson Tide sells more merchandise than any team bar none. I thought my Army buddy was crazy. Then I visited the state and 9/10 people had a hat or shirt.

**SLVR and Black** · 05-29-2012, 08:42 PM

Originally Posted by 101proofRdrFan

Anyone whos been to Alabama can testify to this. Crimson Tide sells more merchandise than any team bar none. I thought my Army buddy was crazy. Then I visited the state and 9/10 people had a hat or shirt.

Go up to Mendocino, head about 20 miles south on 1 to Elk and stay at the Elk Cove Inn. Talk for a bit with the owner, Elaine, and tell her that you're from Alabama. Her first question to you will be: Who ya for? Don't say Auburn.

**Luca_Brasi** · 05-29-2012, 09:25 PM

thats what happens when you give the state's checkbook to the Terminator...

**RaiderInSD21** · 05-29-2012, 09:43 PM

Originally Posted by darkvenom1972

Because California is broke, broke, broke.

And the cities where the teams are located are broke, broke, broke.

^^^

**RunOvrByHubbard** · 05-29-2012, 10:45 PM

Jerry Brown wants to weaken the states environmental laws to allow more big projects. If you know anything about California politics you know how pro-business the new Jerry is. The state is a more extreme version of the rest of the country in terms of a widening gap between the rich and the poor. Brown is now calling upon the rich to help balance have budget thru higher taxes on them. Agree or not, the state is in deep trouble and a long ways from recovery. Personally I love my sports teams but object to my money being used to build playgrounds for rich owners and millionaire players. I would pay for a very small amount over what tickets I buy to build a new yard.