Carson Palmer WILL prove the haters wrong this year.

[cheapshotartist]

Who are these haters your talking about and why are you concerned about them? I could care less what some media clown thinks of our QB. I don't know what CP is going to do in 2012 but I'm sure he will do a lot better than last season being that he will have more practice time than last year. Time will tell.

[Raiders Baby!]

Who are these haters your talking about and why are you concerned about them? I could care less what some media clown thinks of our QB. I don't know what CP is going to do in 2012 but I'm sure he will do a lot better than last season being that he will have more practice time than last year. Time will tell.

I guess 'haters' is the wrong word. I'm talking about the nay-sayers and the doubters. The ones who think we gave up 2 picks for a QB who has shown everything he has to offer. People fail to realize he's the same age as Brady and Brees and is significantly younger than Donkey Manning. He has plenty left in the tank and will be a driving force behind the development of our young wide outs this year.

[Dj Diesel]

16 picks is a lot but about half of that would be coming from receivers running bad routes

[coogi]

16 picks is a lot but about half of that would be coming from receivers running bad routes

i wont be upset if palmer throws 16 INTs for the year this season..if he does though he better throw like 35+ TDs to go with it and 4000+ yards as well...

[Raiders Baby!]

i wont be upset if palmer throws 16 INTs for the year this season..if he does though he better throw like 35+ TDs to go with it and 4000+ yards as well...

16 picks is one a game, it's really not that bad. And Carson's biggest drawback is he is somewhat of a gunslinger, so you have to account for a few mistakes. His best year he threw for over 4000 yards, 28 tds and 13 ints in 2006.

[FLORIDARAYDAH]

I guess 'haters' is the wrong word. I'm talking about the nay-sayers and the doubters. The ones who think we gave up 2 picks for a QB who has shown everything he has to offer. People fail to realize he's the same age as Brady and Brees and is significantly younger than Donkey Manning. He has plenty left in the tank and will be a driving force behind the development of our young wide outs this year.

His age doesnt bother me at all its the fact he has looked awful for 3-4 years that scares me.He hasnt been the same guy since he got injured.I dont have much faith that he can turn the clock back 5 years.I think he will have better timing with his WR's but I dont expect a miracle.I think he will look a lot like Kerry Collins did when he played for us.4000 yards with not a lot of points scored when the game is close and picks at the worst times possible.He will end up with some good stats playing from behind but it wont translate to a lot of wins IMO.I dont hate the guy and hope he breaks every passing record but Im not holding my breath.Hopefully D-mac can stay healthy and we wont have to have the QB carry us

[guydon]

His age doesnt bother me at all its the fact he has looked awful for 3-4 years that scares me.He hasnt been the same guy since he got injured.I dont have much faith that he can turn the clock back 5 years.I think he will have better timing with his WR's but I dont expect a miracle.I think he will look a lot like Kerry Collins did when he played for us.4000 yards with not a lot of points scored when the game is close and picks at the worst times possible.He will end up with some good stats playing from behind but it wont translate to a lot of wins IMO.I dont hate the guy and hope he breaks every passing record but Im not holding my breath.Hopefully D-mac can stay healthy and we wont have to have the QB carry us

Not sure what you are talking about here when you say " he has looked awful for 3-4 years". Being he didn't really take a snap of any kind and came in mid-season last year, under a new system and new coach, on a team who is panicking because their Iconic owner just died can't really be judged can it? 2011- Yes he threw picks but he also threw for 300 yards a game and some really great throws and TD's. 2010- he threw for right at 4,000 yards, had a completion % of over 61%, that is better than what we had in 2010. in 2009 he went to the playoffs, better than what we had in 2009. In 2008 he only played 4 games and was injured, not sure how that is is fault it's not like he is injury prone.
So to recap he had almost no chance at success last year with the situation and still played great at times. In 10 he had a very solid individual season, in 09 he went to the playoffs, 08 he was injured. What exactly has he done to look so awful?
He went to the playoffs 2 years ago, AFTER the injury. He threw for 4000 yards in a season AFTER the injury. We haven't been to the playoffs in 10 years, we don't have a lot to complain about with Palmer.

[SF Mikey]

One huge positive for the Raiders going into this season is their overall QB position (1-3) is much improved. Not only do they have a better starting QB but actually have viable backups "if / when" Palmer goes down. The key for Carson Palmer is to limit the turnovers (INTs / fumbles) and trust in the defense to actually make a few stops - i.e., not feel that he has to win the game in shoot out each / every Sunday. The Raiders should be explosive offensively and if they get anything from the defense then they should at least be competitive with a decent shot at winning their division.

Personally, I look forward to a new era in Raider football!

[speedkills]

Palmer is not really a worry for me this year.

With 5 solid WRs, up and coming at TE in Auberry 4 bbacks who can catch (mcfadden, jones, goodson and Reece) and a solid Oline I think he will produce.

My big worries are

1. Stopping the run forget Palmer who would have had the best stastical year for a raiders qb last year sicne gannon in 2002. We have sucked against the run since 2003 this needs to change.

2. Mcfadden staying healthy 12 to 14 games would be nice.

3. LB position, Mcclain is no star but he is at least stable and average to above average Goethel, Wheeler and Curry dont inspire a lot of confidence in me.

4. CB - two vets coming off injuries and a bunch of inexperienced youngsters.

[guydon]

Palmer is not really a worry for me this year.

With 5 solid WRs, up and coming at TE in Auberry 4 bbacks who can catch (mcfadden, jones, goodson and Reece) and a solid Oline I think he will produce.

My big worries are

1. Stopping the run forget Palmer who would have had the best stastical year for a raiders qb last year sicne gannon in 2002. We have sucked against the run since 2003 this needs to change.

2. Mcfadden staying healthy 12 to 14 games would be nice.

3. LB position, Mcclain is no star but he is at least stable and average to above average Goethel, Wheeler and Curry dont inspire a lot of confidence in me.

4. CB - two vets coming off injuries and a bunch of inexperienced youngsters.

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[raiderrocker18]

Lol at the notion of a qb being "done" at age 32... He wasn't exactly top 5 last year but given the circumstances it's tough to blame him. The key for me was seeing his arm strength was back to 05 form and he even showed some mobility and throw-on-the-run ability. The physical tools were clearly there. With a full offseason and familiarity, he should blossom. He's got another 6 years of starting caliber play

[Raiders Baby!]

Palmer is not really a worry for me this year.

With 5 solid WRs, up and coming at TE in Auberry 4 bbacks who can catch (mcfadden, jones, goodson and Reece) and a solid Oline I think he will produce.

My big worries are

1. Stopping the run forget Palmer who would have had the best stastical year for a raiders qb last year sicne gannon in 2002. We have sucked against the run since 2003 this needs to change.

2. Mcfadden staying healthy 12 to 14 games would be nice.

3. LB position, Mcclain is no star but he is at least stable and average to above average Goethel, Wheeler and Curry dont inspire a lot of confidence in me.

4. CB - two vets coming off injuries and a bunch of inexperienced youngsters.

I didn't say we'd make the playoffs just that Palmer will perform. Regardless if Palmer is bad, average or unbelievable the defense is still the main concern. I will say this, though: if we are top 15 on defense I think Palmer will be more than sufficient to get us into the playoffs.

[chucker]

I believe Palmer will be pretty good. I also believe that there will be head-slapping moments that prove frustrating to watch. My expectation is that he will be somewhere in the middle between his elite seasons and his mistake-filled seasons..... the middle ground is so boring to talk about but it's usually where you end up.

That will be good enough from the QB position, but not good enough to carry the team to 11 wins. The rest of it depends largely upon the health of Dmac and the performance of the defense.

[Willmark]

Palmer is what he is, an above average QB who was wracked with injuries. The question is how much is left in the tank. At two years younger then say Brady there is probably a 2-4 year window for Carson. Yes he's younger then a Brady but has taken a lot more punishment.

I also don't buy the idea that QBs last longer then previous eras. They take a crap load more pounding then their predicessors when they do get hit. Of course the flip is in the70s there were practically no rules to protect the QB, so maybe it's a wash.

None-the-less 34-35 is the time when a QBs skills start to diminish. Carson isn't there yet in terms of age related decline but injuries are a concern.

He's here to buy us time and unlike the past we might actually start to develop a QB, maybe it's Pryor, maybe it's not.

[RAIDKEN]

I can see where you are coming from when you say DHB, Moore, and Ford might turn out to be a top WR corp, but you through me off when you listed Criner. Can he play a NFL game before we include him in one of the top 3 WRs groups?

Criner looks pretty special.......I think he means that Criner will have an impact like Moore did last year. No he's not as fast as Moore but the man has a knack for the ball. It's like when the ball is in the air he not only feels that it is his.....he seems to come down with it 9 times out of 10.

I agree that Palmer will have his best year statistically this year.