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    Quote Originally Posted by CareToExplain View Post
    the black Quarterbacks that have came in dont really exactly have the best work ethic.
    And are usually around criminals, drugs, etc.

    The only good one that has started good is Cam.

    Doug Williams, SuperBowl MVP Randall Cunningham, Revolutionised the position, Set the league on fire with Minnesota Warren Moon, HOF in NFL + CFL Steve McNair. Durable , tough SOB, Took his team to the SuperBowl

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    Quote Originally Posted by CareToExplain View Post
    Quincy Carter, Michael Vick, Vince Young , Akili Smith,

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    And Jamarcus Russell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    and btw these are guys in recent history, i wasnt old enough to watch warren moon
    im sure theres alot more i havent even seen with my own two eyes!!! HAHAHAH


    but yea most black quarterbacks have proven to be lazy, and lethargic
    1. Warren Moon
    2. Randall Cunningham
    3. Steve McNair
    4. Donovan McNabb
    5. Daunte Culpepper
    6. Doug Williams
    7. James Harris
    8. Kordell Stewart
    9. Vince Evans
    10. Marlin Briscoe
    11. Charlie Batch
    12. Charlie Ward
    13. Dennis Dixon
    14. Frederick Douglas fritz Pollard
    15. Bill Willis
    16. Marion Motley
    17. Kenny Washington
    18. George Talifero
    19. Willie Thrower
    20. Charlie Choo Choo Brackins
    21. James Harris
    22. Joe Gilliam
    23. Rodney Peete
    24. David Garrard
    25. Byron Leftwich
    26. Jason Campbell
    27. Seneca Wallace
    28. Troy Smith
    29. RG III
    30. Cam Newton

    I could go on and on. Were you even aware that since 1990 there has been at LEAST (5) black QBs in the NFL every year?!

    The notion that the "majority of black QBs are lethargic and lazy" is a ridiculous assertion. It's laughable and you have made yourself a FOOL.

    The next time you are looking to LABEL someone lethargic and lazy check the mirror. Google is your friend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by djh_raider View Post
    Thanks for posting this. Do you see/hear the word "SORRY" or "I MADE A MISTAKE" or "I BROKE NCAA RULES" in any of this. Do you see him taking BLAME? No, it is how he feels. It is how he now has to struggle.

    I do not "hate the kid" at all. I want to see repentence. I do not see any repentence in anything he says. I feel sorry for his situation with his parents, but do not use that as an excuse, either. There are many, many people isn the same or worse situations who do not breake rules.

    Trust me, I have it on an authority, if he provided and APOLOGY instead of EXCUSES his supsension would have been less or non-existant. I do not like some of Goodall's decisions but he judges people by their word and their repentance. Pryor has never shown true repentance.
    Pete Carroll's repentence? Rothlesberger's repentence? Sure he was sorry he was caught but he never admitted to the multiple rapes and still denies it funny how he was punished less than Pryor...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CareToExplain View Post
    the black Quarterbacks that have came in dont really exactly have the best work ethic.
    And are usually around criminals, drugs, etc.

    The only good one that has started good is Cam.
    And he doesnt have any tatoos....
    fukin troll
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    Quote Originally Posted by CareToExplain View Post
    Some people dont want to be realists and that is ok.
    I dont care about anyones feelings i just say the truth.

    The biggest qb bust in the history of the league.
    Jamarcus....... he was addicted to drugs, slept during meetings, and was associated with criminals.
    It wasnt his lack of talent..
    And that is not most black qb's.... It's just a few. But then again why am I responding to a fvcking moron?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CareToExplain View Post
    the black Quarterbacks that have came in dont really exactly have the best work ethic.
    And are usually around criminals, drugs, etc.

    The only good one that has started good is Cam.
    And he doesnt have any tatoos....

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    Quote Originally Posted by NEO View Post
    1. Warren Moon
    2. Randall Cunningham
    3. Steve McNair
    4. Donovan McNabb
    5. Daunte Culpepper
    6. Doug Williams
    7. James Harris
    8. Kordell Stewart
    9. Vince Evans
    10. Marlin Briscoe
    11. Charlie Batch
    12. Charlie Ward
    13. Dennis Dixon
    14. Frederick Douglas fritz Pollard
    15. Bill Willis
    16. Marion Motley
    17. Kenny Washington
    18. George Talifero
    19. Willie Thrower
    20. Charlie Choo Choo Brackins
    21. James Harris
    22. Joe Gilliam
    23. Rodney Peete
    24. David Garrard
    25. Byron Leftwich
    26. Jason Campbell
    27. Seneca Wallace
    28. Troy Smith
    29. RG III
    30. Cam Newton

    I could go on and on. Were you even aware that since 1990 there has been at LEAST (5) black QBs in the NFL every year?!

    The notion that the "majority of black QBs are lethargic and lazy" is a ridiculous assertion. It's laughable and you have made yourself a FOOL.

    The next time you are looking to LABEL someone lethargic and lazy check the mirror. Google is your friend.
    Yeah but the real question is who had tattoos and who didn't?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CareToExplain View Post
    Lets see these QUARTERBACK busts. Exhibit A and Exhibit B

    You can go ahead and call Tim Tebow a bust at quarterback, (maybe not as football player)

    But Tim Tebow is extremely white, gets his haircuts at Supercuts and Greatclips , His part of the church, very blessed, gives back to the community, doesnt Cuss, does not have tatoos, speaks very fluently, and is a very humble person , and most importantly IS NOT LAZY AND HAS A GREAT WORK ETHIC.

    The reason he " busts " is because of the talent , its just not there. He isnt born with it, as other players are blessed with it.

    Exhibit B

    Look at Jamarcus Russell, yes i know a lot of people loved him, (I remember the thread about what his nickname should be)

    We saw jamarcus up close and personal ,

    Jamarcus work ethic was not there, you can bearly understand when he talks, cares more about his BLING BLING and his DUBS and his PURPLE DRANK than football. He had a drug addiction, he hanged around Criminals in a a drug ring. And alot of analysts knew it was a risk with him.

    And for the sake of the argument ill state the obvious , OFCOURSE HE IS BLACK!!!

    He was born with all this!!!! Its in his Genetics!! in his DNA, right down on his spine!!!!

    He was Born with all the physical tools, the talent was there, no one doubted that!!!

    now how is my analysis wrong?
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    Did people question Campbell this way when he arrived? Why the automatic comparisons to JaWalrus Russell?

    You know I'm not much of a liberal guy (politically) AT ALL, and I have to wonder how many of TP's critics don't like him simply because he's black. The guy obviously did some things right while at Ohio State. Let's give him a CHANCE AT QB before we call for him to be drawn and quartered in the public square.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CareToExplain View Post

    And for the sake of the argument ill state the obvious , OFCOURSE HE IS BLACK!!!

    He was born with all this!!!! Its in his Genetics!! in his DNA, right down on his spine!!!!
    Quoted from your own words.

    How you aren't banned already is beyond me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiu Jitsu Jon View Post
    Did people question Campbell this way when he arrived? Why the automatic comparisons to JaWalrus Russell?

    You know I'm not much of a liberal guy (politically) AT ALL, and I have to wonder how many of TP's critics don't like him simply because he's black. The guy obviously did some things right while at Ohio State. Let's give him a CHANCE AT QB before we call for him to be drawn and quartered in the public square.
    WORD!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiu Jitsu Jon View Post
    Did people question Campbell this way when he arrived? Why the automatic comparisons to JaWalrus Russell?

    You know I'm not much of a liberal guy (politically) AT ALL, and I have to wonder how many of TP's critics don't like him simply because he's black. The guy obviously did some things right while at Ohio State. Let's give him a CHANCE AT QB before we call for him to be drawn and quartered in the public square.
    I don't think Campbell has tattoos though?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CareToExplain View Post
    the black Quarterbacks that have came in dont really exactly have the best work ethic.
    And are usually around criminals, drugs, etc.

    The only good one that has started good is Cam.
    And he doesnt have any tatoos....
    Some where there is an empty seat for you at a Klan meeting.
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    I think it is unlikely that Pryor will develop into a quality starting QB in the NFL. I cannot think of a third round pick who I thought was likely to develop into a quality NFL starting QB. Obviously some 3rd rounders (or lower) have become quality starters, it is just unlikely. Pryor could do it too, I just think it is unlikely. That's not racist, it just makes sense. If just one GM thought it was likely that he would develop into a quality starter then he would not have lasted until the third round in the supplemental draft.

    So yes, I have doubts about Pryor. I also hope he erases those doubts. It appears that he will work hard enough, so the question is "will hard work be enough?" Plenty of guys have physical ability and work hard and yet they never develop into quality players.

    There are others here on this board who feel the same way I do and become frustrated when racism is pointed to as a reason for doubt. As in all facets of society, there are also some on this board with racist views and those people may believe Pryor will never be any good because he is black. I'm sure there are also a few who believe Palmer is not any good because he is white. Nobody on this board is going to rehabilitate a true racist. Just make a reasonable argument about football and let it stand on its own merits. I happen to believe that the vast majority on here are fair-minded people without racist views.

    How do you deal with someone you think is racist? Don't bother. There is nothing wrong with letting someone with a clearly flawed argument have the last word - having the last work does not make them right. Reasonable people don't need to see anyone refute a clearly flawed and biased argument. Don't assume that everyone is unreasonable or racist. And don't feed the troll.

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