Just for fun, All time Raider starting line up

[Raider-Rudy32]

I was thinking about the Matt Millen punch thread and it made me wonder if he was one of our best linebackers of all time. Then I thought it would be kind of fun to put together an all star line up of Raiders (offense and defense). Here are the rules:

1. Must have played for the Raiders at any time in history
2. Must be their natural position, can't change their position like people do in Madden
3. Can change the formation to 3 recievers and no full back or whatever you want
4. That's it, have fun

Here is my All Time Offensive unit:

QB - Snake
HB - Bo Jackson
FB - John Ritchie
LT - Art Shell
LG - Gene Upshaw
C - Jim Otto
RG - Wayne Hawkins
RT - Lincoln Kennedy
TE - Ghost
WR - Fred Biletnikoff
WR - Tim Brown

I couldn't think of a beast at Right Gaurd from the past, I would have put Wiz here but he was a Left Gaurd. I'd like to see what you guys come up with. If the thread takes off I'll post my pick for all time defense and Special Teams.

[Hawaiian Raider]

I wouldn't start any team without Cliff Branch. He's my first Raider. He owns all 3 Rings.

I'm sorry, but Pete Banaszak cleans and jerks Ritchie. Banaszak a 12-year AFL and NFL Raider, with over 50 TDs.

Most famously remembered for keeping the "roll" on the "Holy Roller".

A rebuttal to Banaszak could be that he was in some eyes a RB, but he played like a FB.

Personally? I've always considered him a Fullback - a guaranteed TD at the goal-line.

[NoClapsPlease]

cliff branch over time brown and its hard to argue with that list

although i'd put marcus allen in at fullback

[smucky]

I would like to consider Don Mosebar for center.

Are we not doing defense yet?

[s_adams66]

cliff branch over time brown and its hard to argue with that list

although i'd put marcus allen in at fullback

At FB? I guess that was a joke?

The Bo vs Marcus thing can be debated forever. Bo put up crazy numbers in the short while Marcus put up great numbers in the long...considering. I've forever been a fan of both.

[NoClapsPlease]

cliff branch over time brown and its hard to argue with that list

although i'd put marcus allen in at fullback

At FB? I guess that was a joke?

The Bo vs Marcus thing can be debated forever. Bo put up crazy numbers in the short while Marcus put up great numbers in the long...considering. I've forever been a fan of both.

He played some fullback back in the day in 2 rb sets with bo back there , id put him in for mismatch purposes

[Hawaiian Raider]

At FB? I guess that was a joke?

The Bo vs Marcus thing can be debated forever. Bo put up crazy numbers in the short while Marcus put up great numbers in the long...considering. I've forever been a fan of both.

No joke. Marcus was a great FB when asked to play there.

If I remember correctly, Marcus makes the critical block as the FB on Bo's famous run out of the Stadium up at Seattle.

[r8erray]

Am I the only one thinking Gannon for QB? He had a real nice run till he faced his coach in the bowl

[Raider-Rudy32]

I wouldn't start any team without Cliff Branch. He's my first Raider. He owns all 3 Rings.

I'm sorry, but Pete Banaszak cleans and jerks Ritchie. Banaszak a 12-year AFL and NFL Raider, with over 50 TDs.

Most famously remembered for keeping the "roll" on the "Holy Roller".

A rebuttal to Banaszak could be that he was in some eyes a RB, but he played like a FB.

Personally? I've always considered him a Fullback - a guaranteed TD at the goal-line.

Nice Call on Banaszak, but I agree that I always saw him more of a Running Back. That's the beauty of the list. Nobody's wrong. I picked Ritchie because he knew his role and he did it very well. He new he wasn't going to get the ball very much, his job was to open up holes for the guy behind him. One of my favorite Raiders of all time. Gotta love the bloody forehead too.

Defense and special teams are up for grabs. I'd like to see someone come up with a list for those as well.

[LINQ]

cliff branch over time brown and its hard to argue with that list

although i'd put marcus allen in at fullback

These would be my changes as well.

[LINQ]

I picked Ritchie because he knew his role and he did it very well. He new he wasn't going to get the ball very much, his job was to open up holes for the guy behind him. One of my favorite Raiders of all time. Gotta love the bloody forehead too.

He's also the kind of guy I expect to see a lot more of with RMC in charge.

[cheapshotartist]

76 Raiders!

[madstork]

VanEeghen over Ritchie. Has two rings and is the only modern era fullback I can think of with three consecutive 1000 rushing seasons! Also was money on goal line and in "killing the clock" situations, see the 1980 championship game against the Chargers for reference.

Furthermore, I put Branch ahead of Brown, Mickey Marvin at RG (if you don't want to move Wiz over), and possibly John Vella or Henry Lawrence at RT. Even though Kennedy was great, so were those guys. And don't forget Bob "Boomer" Brown, who finished his HOF career at RT for the Raiders.

Finally, I'll say Marcus over Bo. Bo is more electrifying, Marcus is the better football player, and played his best in the biggest games. True measure of a great player.

And no, I don't rate Gannon for consideration. He's behind Snake and Plunkett.

[coogi]

not even the entire roster but just imagine having that oline all in their prime..

[kennyrat923]

QB-Snake
RBs-Marcus Allen/Bo Jackson
FB-Van-Eeghen
TE-Dave Casper
WRs-Tim Brown/Freddie B
OL(Entire 76 line)
DL-Howie Long, Matuszak, Greg Townsend
LBs-ILbMatt Millen & Phil V
OLBs Ted Hendricks, Rod Martin
CB(this may stir some **** up) Charles Woodson, Lester Hayes
Safeties Tatum, Atkinson

K Jano
P Ray Guy