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Wire: News Source Web Content - US (NS1) Date: Jul 2 2009 9:59:53
Idaho Statesman: Al Davis' New Idea: Move Former Boise State

By Chadd Cripe, The Idaho Statesman, Boise

Jul. 2--Chris O'Neill received a phone call from the Oakland Raiders
the other day.

The next call, he was told, would be from owner Al Davis himself.

When O'Neill answered, he heard the voices of Davis and head coach Tom
Cable explaining a wild idea.

They had decided to move O'Neill -- an undrafted rookie who played at
Boise State last season -- to middle linebacker, a position he never
has played.

"I'll do whatever they tell me to do," said O'Neill, who was a rush
end at his California high school. "... I'm so excited to get in there
and show what I can do. I'm going to have that little anxiety moving
to a new position, but the coaches aren't going to throw me out there
without a life preserver."

In fact, O'Neill considers the switch a positive for his chances of
making the team. The Raiders told him they would keep nine (seven
active, two practice squad) of the 11 linebackers now on the roster,
but just two of the six (including O'Neill) tight ends.

"I feel when they're making a switch like this they have to devote a
lot of time and effort to the player," O'Neill said. "If they just saw
me as a camp body, they probably wouldn't be making this type of
switch, so I think they see something they like."

O'Neill spent an extra week with the Raiders last month after
offseason practices wrapped up to learn some of the defense.

Rookies report back July 20 and training camp opens July 29.

O'Neill was told that Davis came up with the idea of moving him to
defense after watching him practice at tight end and on special teams.
The change occurred at the end of the offseason practices, so he only
got a taste of defense.

O'Neill (6-foot-3), who bulked up to 260 pounds, plans to slim down to
250. He's spending part of his break studying a DVD and playbook to
figure out the defense.

"I spent some extra one-on-one time with the coaches before I left,"
he said. "One to two hours a day, I'm sitting down at my kitchen table
with a remote, fast-forwarding and rewinding."

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Wow! WTF is that? The Raiders have some shyt up their sleeves. If a cat out of no where takes the MLB and Kirk slides to SLB we could have a new look d. I just don't know about taking TE's and switching them to MLB's. That is risky. Old Al is at it again. I hope this works out. That kind of move scares the shyt out of me..
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Judas F**king Priest another project...
Ummmm, when is an undrafted rookie not a project? Obviously he did not impress at TE, but did do something during special teams drill that did show promise. Why not give the kid a shot? Why is this such disappointing news? Even if it does not pan out and he does not make the team, what is lost?

But hey, if being negative even about a bit of news like this gets you off, go for it.
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now..why would we need all those line backers? hmm....
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now..why would we need all those line backers? hmm....
I don't think they will make a complete jump to the 3-4 but think that possibly they may mix it up a bit giving offenses different looks.
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Ummmm, when is an undrafted rookie not a project? Obviously he did not impress at TE, but did do something during special teams drill that did show promise. Why not give the kid a shot? Why is this such disappointing news? Even if it does not pan out and he does not make the team, what is lost?

But hey, if being negative even about a bit of news like this gets you off, go for it.
They aren't all projects... some get drafted or signed to play their natural positions. Davis still thinks he's going to find the next Billy Cannon or Todd Christensen.

Who is being negative, merely stating a fact... when you've had 6 piss poor seasons the last thing you want to be doing is bringing in guys and putting them at different positions which already puts them behind the curve. It's called using some common sense when you draft or sign free agents!
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What do you have against running a 2-5 defense ?

Two down tackles and 5 LBs could show a WHOLE lotta looks.
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They aren't all projects... some get drafted or signed to play their natural positions. Davis still thinks he's going to find the next Billy Cannon or Todd Christensen.

Who is being negative, merely stating a fact... when you've had 6 piss poor seasons the last thing you want to be doing is bringing in guys and putting them at different positions which already puts them behind the curve. It's called using some common sense when you draft or sign free agents!
Obviously when they picked up this undrafted rookie they did not plan on making this move, it was a result of his play. If you recognize that at player moving to the NFL is better suited to play another position than the one he played in college it is best to make that move. Hell, Raji (sp?) the DT taken in the first round is being moved to DE. These types of moves are made often. Correct me if I am wrong, but Namdi was a safety in college and was moved to corner.

Also, just because you have six sh&t years in a row, that does not mean that everything you do in player development is done for this upcoming season. It does not mean that all of your focus is on short term fixes. Yes, you tend to focus more on that, but you still have to maintain long term development goals. If not two or three years down the road you will see the misfortune of this philosophy. All teams have projects (players who are not NFL ready but show promise at a particular position). Hell, even if a player is not changing a position, at times the schemes are so different from college to the NFL that the transition must feel like they are playing a new position.

That said, this guy is an undrafted rookie, I really do not see the problem with the fact that he really impressed in special teams so you want to see what he can bring at LB. If he fails, nothing is lost. Or maybe he becomes a special teams ace for us.

Not a lot of undrafted rookies start right away any ways. Many sit on the bench, play special teams or spend time of practice squads or are cut. So if you want to make one of these guys a project, what's the big deal? Why react with an expletive that connotes you are upset by what seems to be nothing more than camp fodder?
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things keep lookin more andmore interesting, I just hope it translates to wins
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Obviously when they picked up this undrafted rookie they did not plan on making this move, it was a result of his play. If you recognize that at player moving to the NFL is better suited to play another position than the one he played in college it is best to make that move. Hell, Raji (sp?) the DT taken in the first round is being moved to DE. These types of moves are made often. Correct me if I am wrong, but Namdi was a safety in college and was moved to corner.

Also, just because you have six sh&t years in a row, that does not mean that everything you do in player development is done for this upcoming season. It does not mean that all of your focus is on short term fixes. Yes, you tend to focus more on that, but you still have to maintain long term development goals. If not two or three years down the road you will see the misfortune of this philosophy. All teams have projects (players who are not NFL ready but show promise at a particular position). Hell, even if a player is not changing a position, at times the schemes are so different from college to the NFL that the transition must feel like they are playing a new position.

That said, this guy is an undrafted rookie, I really do not see the problem with the fact that he really impressed in special teams so you want to see what he can bring at LB. If he fails, nothing is lost. Or maybe he becomes a special teams ace for us.

Not a lot of undrafted rookies start right away any ways. Many sit on the bench, play special teams or spend time of practice squads or are cut. So if you want to make one of these guys a project, what's the big deal? Why react with an expletive that connotes you are upset by what seems to be nothing more than camp fodder?
There aren't many players being developed in this system however! The Raiders don't have a system, a plan or objective per se.

If they had some stability in scheme, system and staff I might buy into your theory, but my guess is Cable will be just as short term as Turner, Shell, Callahan and Kiffin.

I would like to think the power that is, is trying to make smart moves to improve this team, not merely moving a kid somewhere so he can be camp fodder. Yeah most won't even make the roster, but I would be trying to bring players in that will challenge rather than hope some undrafted free agent might pan out.
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Hmm....... interesting. I have never seen Chris play but his size isn't bad and he was drafted by Al so he's obviously got a little speed. This could be an interesting project.

If him and Joseph show they can play, I think it's safe to say (sadly) that Morrison is gone.
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yeah..that's what it sounds like...seems that cable is a student of the different fronts as he talked about them in his post draft interview. Good....just lining up and running forward has not served this defense well...that's for sure....Ryan acted like he never heard of stunt, blitz or "different looks"
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