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Old 10-01-2008, 02:20 PM
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The reason he wont be holding a press conference is that his team thinks they now have Al beat, and can get his money from the senile old man who is our owner. What happened today was an embarassment to professional sports. We are getting killed by just about every single media and radio outlet. Smart move by kiffin of getting out now.
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Or, most likely:

3. From a lawyer's perspective, the less your client says on the record, the better.
you are absolutely right. I posted that right after my initial post too.
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Old 10-01-2008, 02:23 PM
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No i think Al was completly out of line with the press conference. He doesn't have to prove any of those accusation to the media or public. This has become a legal matter, Kiffin can claim defamation of character leaving davis in violation of the contract.Kiffin never said anything directly negative about Al Davis.

Truth is davis probably lost the case with that press conference regardless of how much of it was true.
Kiffins breach of contract or should I say contractual obligations are probably to the organization. Not Davis per say. So if it can be proved that he undermined the organization he would be at fault. You think that the old man doesnt have a fleet of attorneys who have provided feedback on what can and can not be said and done. The man has been in more legal battle than Law and Order. Davis stated facts, witnesses, and provided documents for everyone to see. Tell me how did Davis defame his character. By pointing out a lie?

The bottom line is that this is about money. And if he says anything else stupid, he may put himself in a bigger hole. Kiffin doesnt get paid, the lawyers dont get paid.
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Old 10-01-2008, 02:24 PM
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I knew he would cancel. There's no way in hell Lance wants to go toe to toe with Davis. His lawyer most likely advised him to STFU kid, the old man has you by the nuts.

Lance won't get paid. He's a liar and shouldn't get a nickel more from Davis.
I guess you were there. All I saw was a vindictive old man airing dirty laundry that made him look worse than Kiffin. Yeah right - he was "forced" to take a 4th round draft choice for Randy Moss. No one "forces" Al Davis to do anything...

In a couple of weeks people will be calling for Cable/Knapps head...
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I'd want my name cleared for potential future employers. Kiffin can fight Davis in court, but we all know Al will drag that **** out and by the time all is said and done... I don't know, it might just have tarnished Kiffin's reputation. Maybe not. Maybe teams won't give a **** and say, "well... Al is just crazy". But after paying lawyers and going through a lengthy trial, is it really worth it?
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Old 10-01-2008, 02:25 PM
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i'd want my name cleared for potential future employers. Kiffin can fight davis in court, but we all know al will drag that **** out and by the time all is said and done... I don't know, it might just have tarnished kiffin's reputation. Maybe not. maybe teams won't give a **** and say, "well... Al is just crazy". But after paying lawyers and going through a lengthy trial, is it really worth it?
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Old 10-01-2008, 02:29 PM
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That means there's a law suit coming. Attorney's like to control all information their clients put out when they're pursuing legal action.
May not even get that far. Kiffin can petition the commissioner's office to act. If the commish believes the Raiders owe, he can order Al to fork over the money. If Al refuses, the NFL can garnish the money from the team's allocation of shared revenues (i.e. television, merchandise, etc.). Any legal action then may be between the league and Al.
Imagine that.
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Old 10-01-2008, 02:29 PM
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Kiffin is making a very smart move here. THink about it. What is the purpose of holding a press conference? It would be imature imo. When Kiffin goes to his next job they will side with him because he can now be seen as the victim. I believe that he was in some ways the victim & he will have success later on but never had a chance in Oakland.
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Old 10-01-2008, 02:31 PM
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could be looked at either way........

1. He is being the bigger man and not stooping to Al's ridiculous level

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2. He was totally "owned" by Al today and has no way to defend himself.
Well a lawyer doesn't care about #1.
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Old 10-01-2008, 02:32 PM
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probably planning a strategic attack to say to the press without getting out of hand.
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Old 10-01-2008, 02:32 PM
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Ight guys and girls Kiffin is GONE .. Alot of u wanted it so deal with it , Cable is Interim HC wtf . Al Davis you senile man you, Already belittling the HC, Perfect start to the relationship, Kiffin is gone none of us should have anything else to say about it, We are at a by week lets focus on winning .. thats all the focus oakland should need, 2 weeks of training to get this together lets get this going im tired of rooting for losers, n watching this good team Rot with Davis,
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Old 10-01-2008, 02:33 PM
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Bottom line is Al turned into a child today live on tv. Calling names. WTF! The man definitely has legal troubles ahead of him from this rant on tv. IMO, I seen a man trying to cover his ass on this whole firing of Kiffin. He is one bitter old man. If a man can't be straight out on certain questions, one can only think that he is hiding or leaning away from the question. When he made the remark that he wasn't there to talk about the team and only about Kiffin, this just struck me as strange can be. Al, your running out of excuses and today the whole world caught a big glimpse of the world according to Al!
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Old 10-01-2008, 02:34 PM
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No i think Al was completly out of line with the press conference. He doesn't have to prove any of those accusation to the media or public.
Al can't win. He's silent then they make up stories and say if these weren't true Al would say something. He finally gets out to tell all and then he's classless. Well again he didn't want to all of a sudden coach the Razorbacks.
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Old 10-01-2008, 02:37 PM
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