Who do You Believe?

[WillieBrown]

If you have not saw BOTH Kiffin and Davis's remarks please don't vote on the poll till you do.

[speedkills]

how bout neither

[8485]

I have said it a million times. I dont think Al said anything to crazy in the Press Confrence. The only thing that was bad was that he blamed Kiff for getting rid of Moss. Moss didnt want to be here that was clear so I dont buy that. The stuff about Russell and the staff has been said by the media last year and that start of this year.

I think Kiffin did a good job not a great job and its sad the way it has gone down.I just really feel that Davis made it clear that he dosent want this to happen all the time,but if the guy isnt right he isnt right.

I wish Kiffin the best and I am sure at some point he will be a pain in our ass and making Davis look bad or he could just go to work in collage.

[Jimi18]

Originally Posted by WillieBrown

If you have not saw BOTH Kiffin and Davis's remarks please don't vote on the poll till you do.

I will wait until I see Lane on Wed, then vote

[Anotharaiderfan]

2 wrongs don't make a right. They both are lying the truth is somewhere in the middle.

[BlackHeart]

I wouldn't take sides in this situation cause both guys will not make themselves look bad

[Chiefhater]

It's hard to say. When Tray Wingo (sp?) asked Kiffin about his comment that he had not spoken to AD since before the Denver game even though Al said otherwise, Kiffin did not answer the question directly.

I know that's a small detail and maybe Kiffin didn't care to address it at that time, but I found it interesting that he didn't refute Al's claim.

As for the Moss situation....Chad Johnson didn't want to play in Cincy this year but he's still there. I do believe Al when he says that it was Kiffin that wanted Randy gone. At the time I ageed with Kiffin. Lane and I were wrong, Al was right.

[BucFan9720]

Absolutely Lane Kiffin is lying.

Your telling me your the Raiders HC and you are NOT talking to Al Davis?

I assure you he was interested in that Arkansas job.. there is a reason that Petrino took it so fast.

[rckabillyRaider]

Both are damn liars but it will be interesting to see Lane's pc tomorrow. Let's move on and try to get some wins and hopefully Al steps down sooner than later.

[BlackHeart]

Originally Posted by Chiefhater

It's hard to say. When Tray Wingo (sp?) asked Kiffin about his comment that he had not spoken to AD since before the Denver game even though Al said otherwise, Kiffin did not answer the question directly.

I know that's a small detail and maybe Kiffin didn't care to address it at that time, but I found it interesting that he didn't refute Al's claim.

Al Davis pretty much got him by showing the letter he supposed of gave Kiffin.


I'm not a huge fan of Al but I have to admit that was pretty smart of him to do and he knew what he was doing by showing and reading the letter he gave to kiffin.



Now I'm sure Kiffin will not have his copy of the letter when he does his PC tommorrow.

[johnny anomaly]

I believe Al davis,The media, The national Tobacco Alliance & the U.S. Government

[rckabillyRaider]

Originally Posted by BlackHeart

Al Davis pretty much got him by showing the letter he supposed of gave Kiffin.


I'm not a huge fan of Al but I have to admit that was pretty smart of him to do and he knew what he was doing by showing and reading the letter he gave to kiffin.



Now I'm sure Kiffin will not have his copy of the letter when he does his PC tommorrow.

that letter on the dumb projector was a damn joke. So childish and didnt prove anything. The truth is somewhere in the middle

[Funky]

Originally Posted by BucFan9720

Absolutely Lane Kiffin is lying.

Your telling me your the Raiders HC and you are NOT talking to Al Davis?

I assure you he was interested in that Arkansas job.. there is a reason that Petrino took it so fast.

Agreed.

Also about someone saying Al will step down, the only chance for him to step down is once he's put the team in the right direction with a winning season, or gets ill. (god forbid) anyways, if he does get a winning season under his belt, even then he might just stick around still. Al Davis believes in himself obviously to be the best person at the owner position, which is not true...but it's his team.

[BlackHeart]

Originally Posted by rckabillyRaider

that letter on the dumb projector was a damn joke. So childish and didnt prove anything. The truth is somewhere in the middle

That letter is what Al gave to Kiffin so unless Al just typed that 3 page letter up last night then it was pretty smart on Al's part.