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Old 10-01-2008, 12:09 PM
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“To go be a head coach in the NFL, and deal with the personalities in the NFL, the players, and to deal with a completely dysfunctional franchise when you get there,” Kiffin said before being interrupted by laughter. “That wasn’t a joke. That’s something that was real valuable. You can’t go to school and learn crisis management like you learn there.”
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Old 10-01-2008, 12:13 PM
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OK, this "NFL has to do something!" stuff continues to come up, so I will chime in:

The only time the league has intervened and taken over a franchise was when their checks started to bounce. In short, the team went broke first, which ain't happeninin this case, so the league won't do anything. Which is precisely the correct position, regardless of how you feel about Al Davis.

So don't wait for the league to "save us."
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Old 10-01-2008, 12:17 PM
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If you went through the posts from Feb '06, I guarantee that at least a few contain positive comments about Shell and Walsh. But that is not the issue. The issue is, what coach, player or executive will have any desire to work for Al Davis and his storm of chaotic management?
We've said the same thing over and over though, huh? I have been head cheerleader on the "nobody will want the job" bandwagon. Believe me. All drama aside, the last guy did an ok job preparing the team, not so much the political and play calling angles.

So the job will continue to be filled by someone, and the league will continue to allow it to be filled without intervention.

We may not approve of the choices, but there will be candidates. From somewhere. Only 32 slots available.
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Every NFL owner, GM, coach, player and fan is laughing at our team today. The press conference was a joke. Something must be done! Whether it is Tagliabue, all of the owners, or both, action must taken to stop Al Davis from continuing to ruin this franchise.
Please stop...these are smart some smart people that you are talking about. Some maybe amused or confused...but don't tell me that Al & the organization don't have boys in their corner..WOW!!
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Old 10-01-2008, 12:27 PM
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Wasn't Marge Schott banned from running day-to-day operations of the Reds? What about Steinbrenner? I know this is the NFL. I also know that the NFL fears Al Davis and his willingness to litigate. But I have to believe that the commissioner's office has some power to take control of a team in a deteriorating situation like this one.
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it was a disgrace long before today get over it
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Old 10-01-2008, 12:31 PM
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Al made up his own story to try to get out of paying Kiffin. That is all that was. He tried to destroy Kiffins rep. It may have worked except EVERYONE knows Davis's history and that he is a loon. Kiffin will get a job easily because he built and almost finished building a dominate team within a year and four games with no support from his own owner. In fact that whole thing probably will help him get a job.
And yes that conference was a disgrace no matter if it is a new beginning. The disgrace was the absolute childish hatred displayed by a grown man who owns a business.
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Al Davis crossed into unchartered territory today by calling Kiffin a "liar." He is attacking his character and purposely making him undesirable to future employers. What potential coach, young or old, would want to take the risk of not only being fired, but also having his character assassinated to the point where he could not ever get another job in the NFL.
If this were any other team I would agree. But Lane's stock probably went up after this around the NFL, coming from Al. lol

Now taking the slant: Nfl Network was pretty darn fair with their analysis afterwards. ESPN was craddling Lane and taking his side like no questions asked. Sort of like Fox vs CNN you can just tell what side favors the other. ESPN waay to one side, NFL Net pretty balanced.
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Wasn't Marge Schott banned from running day-to-day operations of the Reds? What about Steinbrenner? I know this is the NFL. I also know that the NFL fears Al Davis and his willingness to litigate. But I have to believe that the commissioner's office has some power to take control of a team in a deteriorating situation like this one.
The commissioner essentially works for the NFL franchise owners, not the other way around.
And why would they step in this situation anyway? NFL coaches that don't win games get fired all the time, and even some that do win games get fired, Marty S. got fired few years ago after a 12-4 season.
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Al made up his own story to try to get out of paying Kiffin. That is all that was. He tried to destroy Kiffins rep.
Hmmm.. Again a lot of this was already known by people in the biz, it just made it to the public. For example and the only one I need. Lane persued Arkansas. I really want to hear how he explains this one to the media, unless they only throw him softballs.
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discrace? i think of it as a new beginning, but you can go ahead and think the same way the hatred media does, but i refuse to.
agreed! its just gonna be interesting how the rest of this season turns out...
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Personally, I might agree that they were all laughing at us. But now that the drama has ended for the time being, except of course the war of words between the two, I don't think they're laughing now. We have the chance to get some order, stability in our coaching and with that the very likelihood of producing better on the field and getting some wins. And I don't think they would be laughing about that. I wish Coach Cable the best of luck. GO RAIDERS!
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