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Old 09-11-2008, 08:57 AM
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unemployment?

dude hes an nfl coach. and if he is so GREAT like everyone here thinks, he wont have any problem finding another job, so money isnt an issue. im not an al davis apologist but kiffin KNEW what he was getting himself into when he took the job. so he gets no sympathy from me and now all hes doing is making himself look bad. id rather see anyone that wanted to be the coach calling the plays instead of him.
I'd be willing to bet Kiffin has more success as a coach after he's gone... care to wager?
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Old 09-11-2008, 08:58 AM
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I'd be willing to bet Kiffin has more success as a coach after he's gone... care to wager?
more success? that isnt very hard. hes won 4 games. if you think hes gonna be great, no way.
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Old 09-11-2008, 08:59 AM
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unemployment?

dude hes an nfl coach. and if he is so GREAT like everyone here thinks, he wont have any problem finding another job, so money isnt an issue. im not an al davis apologist but kiffin KNEW what he was getting himself into when he took the job. so he gets no sympathy from me and now all hes doing is making himself look bad. id rather see anyone that wanted to be the coach calling the plays instead of him.
Why give up free money? Thats dumb.

I would collect unemployment personally but me getting fired is worse then me quitting. For Lane Kiffin its different. Everyone in the LEAGUE knows how ridiculous Al DaviD is so basically you ride it out and get money. Kiffin isnt saying anything that EVERYONE In this ENTIRE league doesnt already know about Al.
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more success? that isnt very hard. hes won 4 games. if you think hes gonna be great, no way.
If there's no way he can be a good coach, why did Al hire him?
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Old 09-11-2008, 09:00 AM
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If there's no way he can be a good coach, why did Al hire him?
seriously? maybe because no one else wanted the job.
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Old 09-11-2008, 09:01 AM
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more success? that isnt very hard. hes won 4 games. if you think hes gonna be great, no way.
Did I say great? no, I said he'd find more success, so do you care to wager or not?
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Old 09-11-2008, 09:02 AM
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Why give up free money? Thats dumb.

I would collect unemployment personally but me getting fired is worse then me quitting. For Lane Kiffin its different. Everyone in the LEAGUE knows how ridiculous Al DaviD is so basically you ride it out and get money. Kiffin isnt saying anything that EVERYONE In this ENTIRE league doesnt already know about Al.
thats my point though. everyone knows about al and everyone has known. kiffin knew about al when he signed that contract so in my opinion its his own fault. and if he is so miserable he can quit. he will get another job somewhere and i doubt hes hurting for money
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seriously? maybe because no one else wanted the job.
Now the question is, why doesn't anyone want the job?
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Old 09-11-2008, 09:03 AM
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Did I say great? no, I said he'd find more success, so do you care to wager or not?
define more success dude. if by more success you mean 5 wins then sure he will get it. all he has to do is find a team with marginally more talent. so he can pick from about 30 teams
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more success? that isnt very hard. hes won 4 games. if you think hes gonna be great, no way.
Did you think the same about Shanahan?
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He's been talking this way for weeks. You guys are just now noticing?

He's going through the motions because he knows he doesn't have the talent to compete and he doesn't have control of the roster. He also has no real authority to cut guys or take disciplinary action, so guys come out in games doing stupid **** like violating the league's dress-code so they can look sharp on TV, and then forget to play football.
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Old 09-11-2008, 09:04 AM
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Now the question is, why doesn't anyone want the job?
are you not reading what i post? im not defending al at all. he gets the blame for the direction the team is going. im just not sticking up for a guy who likes to pout but wont just quit his job
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Old 09-11-2008, 09:05 AM
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thats my point though. everyone knows about al and everyone has known. kiffin knew about al when he signed that contract so in my opinion its his own fault. and if he is so miserable he can quit. he will get another job somewhere and i doubt hes hurting for money
But answer my question, WHY GIVE UP FREE MONEY? You know your gone, why GIVE THAT FREE MONEY BEHIND???????????????
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