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Old 07-07-2008, 08:49 AM
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I continue to read with amazement in just 12 short months of how we are ready to hang everything on Rob Ryan. The year prior we wanted him to be head coach. If everybody keeps reading what the media is fed we will be turning our backs on OUR TEAM.

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2004 Raiders were 6th in defense in stopping the run on per attempt at 3.7yds per attempt. So I think he has an idea.

2006 Raiders Defense were 11th ind defense in stopping the run on per attempt at 4.0 ysds per attempt.

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In Week 7 last season, the Chiefs were beating Oakland 6-0 in the second quarter. The Raiders had just one first down prior to the drive. Faced with a third-and-two from the Kansas City 18, Oakland rookie head coach Lane Kiffin called for a run resulting in a 1-yard gain. Instead of kicking the field goal, the Raiders went for it on fourth down and failed to convert. The Raiders ended up losing 12-10. Many naysayers pointed to the fourth-down call as the mistake, but in reality, the third down call was the real miscue. Had the game been managed correctly, Kiffin would have known a field goal was not an option before making his third-down call. With that knowledge, the play book is wide open on third down and the potential is there for a big play

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about 8 hours ago Good post. I can see some are still swilling around in their collective throats about the defense and in particular the DT position. The bases of that concern probably comes from last years performance. The bottom line is wins! We lost 7 games last year that had NOTHING to do with the defense.

Detroit L-21-36, Note we did not score in the first half. Three turnovers by us (offense) late led to 17 points for Det. 5 Turnovers total!

At Denver L- 20-23 TIME OUT by the rat! We only scored three points in the first half.

Kansas City L 10-12 AGAIN we are shut out in the first half!!!!!!!!!

At Tennessee L 9-13, we were Shut out in the second half.

Texans L- 17-24, AGAIN, AGAIN we are shut out in the first half.

Bears L- 6-17, Just two field goals by Sea Bass?

Colts L 14-21, Inept offense and turnovers hurt our chances.

With any kind of offense we win all the above games. But even if we win only 4 that would have left us at 8-8 With the improvements this year on offense and the easier schedule I agree we can be 9-7. So I think the post is smart, smart, smart,!!!!

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For all of you Tampa 2 Fans -

Indy was dead last in 2006 vs. the run

Bottom Line you can blame who you want for the losses. But until we manage games better become more consistent in Special Teams, and actually score some points, it doesnt matter who is the Defensive Coordinator is.
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Old 07-07-2008, 08:55 AM
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Blame offense, special teams, and Lane for the poor defense? Is that you Rob?
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It's the team's fault. The defense didn't hold onto several leads that the offense had gotten for them, and the offense didn't put up points in a lot of games. Hell, even Jano missed a few field goals that were game changers.

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O and btw Indy was tops in the league in points allowed. I'll take their defense any day. I just don't think it would fit us best right now when our corners are our strength and our fron7 is weak.
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Quit recycling that response from the Bleacher report!!

OUr defense was good enough last year to win more games than 4, I'll give you that. The Colts had a SB run (and won it) with the leagues worst run defense, so you really cant hang it all on the D. But the Colts brought steady pressure, somethng we've had a lot of trouble creating consistently, when we need to.

IT is all about the team as a collective. A ST blunder here, a flat drive there, a 30 yard run here, and the game's out of reach, despite playing competitively. I have a feeling that a second year with the same coaching staff will help create an evironment of consistency..
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The defense has no fault in 7 of the losses? The defense gave up leads in almost every loss. If it is not Rob Ryan's fault and his players who's fault is it?
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Blame offense, special teams, and Lane for the poor defense? Is that you Rob?
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The defense has no fault in 7 of the losses? The defense gave up leads in almost every loss. If it is not Rob Ryan's fault and his players who's fault is it?
It must be Al Davis' fault.
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My point was it is the team collectively! Not just the Defense. I apologize that I didnt make my point clear. Maybe it is time for Ryan to go, but looking at the entire picture there is work to be done everywhere!

So I apologize to Lane and his wife and mom! Lane Lovers across the Nation! You are right the defense sucks we need to start over!!!!!

Ryan Sucks Ryan Sucks ............... How is that better?????
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My point was it is the team collectively! Not just the Defense. I apologize that I didnt make my point clear. Maybe it is time for Ryan to go, but looking at the entire picture there is work to be done everywhere!

So I apologize to Lane and his wife and mom! Lane Lovers across the Nation! You are right the defense sucks we need to start over!!!!!

Ryan Sucks Ryan Sucks ............... How is that better?????
Enough blame to go around...
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You must know Rob or love him or something. You defend him every chance you get.
I am a Raider fan and I supported him last year and will again this year!
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It is simple. We stop the run we win.... We have not been able to do that on a regular basis in a long time.
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I don't think it is Frank.....Frank would come alot stronger than that.
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