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I think that we should stop speculating. We don't know anything, we won't know anything until the season starts.
In fact, it isn't even worth the time being on this site. There should only be two threads:
One titled "How will the Raiders do in '08?", where one person says "I have no idea, there is no way to know!" and everyone else says "Yeah, I agree with that accessment."
The other one would be titled "Off-season signings:", where every time we sign a new player someone posts their name and asks how they will do. Then everyone else says, "No way to know, he is unproven! He could get hurt! Gotta wait till the season starts!"
After all, no use making wild guesses. It's all conjecture.
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05-09-2008, 04:14 PM
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You have some sort of problem??
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No, I only have solutions to problems.
Perhaps I miss-interpretated your post, but it's simple to see there is only one side to this argument that can't be reached.
If your post wasn't meant in a condenscending manner than I sincerely apologize, however if was meant in such a way, than I stand by insinuation that your inabillity to resonate any degree of reasonable understading, must be caused by a rare genetic defect.
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I thnik Darren McFadden and Michael Bush will be the best RB combo in the AFC West..
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05-09-2008, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Jitzfighter
No, I only have solutions to problems.
Perhaps I miss-interpretated your post, but it's simple to see there is only one side to this argument that can't be reached.
If your post wasn't meant in a condenscending manner than I sincerely apologize, however if was meant in such a way, than I stand by insinuation that your inabillity to resonate any degree of reasonable understading, must be caused by a rare genetic defect.
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Well, I think you miss-interpretated [sic] my post because I wasn't trying to be condescending [sic]. But it seems my inabillity [sic] to resonate any degree of reasonable understading [sic] must indeed be a rare genetic defect, similar to the inability some have to use a spell checker.
Seriously, chill and think prior to attacking. I was actually agreeing with you to a degree. Now you lost me.

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05-09-2008, 04:45 PM
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I don't think I've ever stated McFadden wasn't an improvement over Jordan unless of course you can prove otherwise.
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I think so.
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I also commented that Wilson was probably the only really good acquisition ....
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Off-season ‘07 priorities:
1 Draft +/or FA's to make the OLine +TE top tier in run + pass
2 Draft +/or FA DT to stop clock eating, 3rd dwn convs, insure having the top NFL defense
3 Buy coach/staff to implement plan that fits our personnel. Scheme for their particular talents. Don't be a jerk, even if the player is
If you get rid of all the prima donnas, you won't have a good team.
With the #1 defense, you only need so many points to win the Superbowl.
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05-09-2008, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Gawdzilla
I think that we should stop speculating. We don't know anything, we won't know anything until the season starts.
In fact, it isn't even worth the time being on this site. There should only be two threads:
One titled "How will the Raiders do in '08?", where one person says "I have no idea, there is no way to know!" and everyone else says "Yeah, I agree with that accessment."
The other one would be titled "Off-season signings:", where every time we sign a new player someone posts their name and asks how they will do. Then everyone else says, "No way to know, he is unproven! He could get hurt! Gotta wait till the season starts!"
After all, no use making wild guesses. It's all conjecture.
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The most friggin' awesome post on the subject ever.
That community college version of Philosophy 101 is spam at it's worst.
We're improved in many key areas, as I documented, and none of it has been refuted.
There's no mention of how we're worse, unless you're a big McCown or BMW fan.
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Off-season ‘07 priorities:
1 Draft +/or FA's to make the OLine +TE top tier in run + pass
2 Draft +/or FA DT to stop clock eating, 3rd dwn convs, insure having the top NFL defense
3 Buy coach/staff to implement plan that fits our personnel. Scheme for their particular talents. Don't be a jerk, even if the player is
If you get rid of all the prima donnas, you won't have a good team.
With the #1 defense, you only need so many points to win the Superbowl.
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05-09-2008, 04:55 PM
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An intelligent analysis is sticking with the original point, and not spamming it with "you can't predict the future".
A stupid analysis is when I give dozens of reasons whe the Raiders will be better this year:
and a bunch of babies trash the thread with the same old crap.
I guess they're jelous they can't talk intelligently about the Raiders.
Where do these kids learn their manners?
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You gave dozens of opinions on why you think the Raider will be better this year.
"A bunch of babies trash the thread"........ Are you for real!?!!!???
Who trashed your thread??? Trashing is giving a different opinion than the one you want to hear? I think you're the one with drool on his bib!
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05-09-2008, 05:00 PM
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That was from just after the '06 season, when the defense was #3. Remember?
Now, Al has playmakers to have a top 5 or 10 offense, and a top 5 or 10 defense. We're a few players away from top 5 in both.
As this thread points out, we've made tremendous leaps in talent on offense and defense. We're gonna be highly competitive this year because of the way Al set up and improved the team.
Of all the spam posts, none debated my points.
Dungver must be scared.
KC must be scared.
SD is getting worried.
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We weren't top 20 in offense or defense last year. And now we are top 10 or 5? On paper maybe. Russell could turn out like akili smith, Bush could be ron dayne, and McFadden could be kijana carter for all we know. Maybe they will be Bettis, Roethisberger, and Tomlinson too. But you dont plug in a bunch of rookies and say we will jump from one of the worst offenses and defenses in the league to the top 10. Completely unrealistic.
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2008 OROY: Darren McFadden
2008 sleeper: Adarius Bowman
Re-sign Nnamdi and fix the front 7!
Run the ball and STOP THE RUN!
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05-09-2008, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Gawdzilla
I think that we should stop speculating. We don't know anything, we won't know anything until the season starts.
In fact, it isn't even worth the time being on this site. There should only be two threads:
One titled "How will the Raiders do in '08?", where one person says "I have no idea, there is no way to know!" and everyone else says "Yeah, I agree with that accessment."
The other one would be titled "Off-season signings:", where every time we sign a new player someone posts their name and asks how they will do. Then everyone else says, "No way to know, he is unproven! He could get hurt! Gotta wait till the season starts!"
After all, no use making wild guesses. It's all conjecture.
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LANE KIFFIN IN FOR 2008!
Raiders and Knicks
George Carlin
2008 OROY: Darren McFadden
2008 sleeper: Adarius Bowman
Re-sign Nnamdi and fix the front 7!
Run the ball and STOP THE RUN!
"F*ck whatever happened before, I'm what's happening now!" - Jadakiss
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05-09-2008, 05:03 PM
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Jitzfighter
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Originally Posted by MileHighRaider
Well, I think you miss-interpretated [sic] my post because I wasn't trying to be condescending [sic]. But it seems my inabillity [sic] to resonate any degree of reasonable understading [sic] must indeed be a rare genetic defect, similar to the inability some have to use a spell checker.
Seriously, chill and think prior to attacking. I was actually agreeing with you to a degree. Now you lost me.

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Wow, thats a first, gonna call me out on some spelling mistakes on an internet forum? LOL....allright whatever....I'm at work, cut me some slack.
Misguided or not, I hope your optimistic view is spot on! I've engaged in far too many of these debates lately, time to have a beer and a call it a week. 
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I thnik Darren McFadden and Michael Bush will be the best RB combo in the AFC West..
"Stuff went on in that organization that shouldn't go on in sports. I don't think there's one person who knows who or what is making the call. Let's just say the Oakland experience is unique. The phone rings quite a bit on that sideline." Warren Sapp
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05-09-2008, 05:24 PM
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Walker is a talented guy if he's 100% healthy which is the big if, Carter what exactly has he done in the NFL?
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He’s had a big season with strong armed Favre, and he’s impressed enough knowledgeable NFL people to make the deal look good, assuming he stays healthy.
Frankly, the same goes for every player in the NFL. They all suck when they’re injured and on the bench.
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Here are Carters career totals: Not exactly stats that make one forget Williams... 4 years in the league and he hasn't done a great deal.
71 977 13.8 49 8 2 18 9.0 11 0 0 0
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That was Carter in 33 games
Here’s Williams in 30 games:
44 539 12.2 49 2 0 0 0.0 0 0 3 3
60% more catches for Carter, and he had over 500 yards last year. BMW's best year was '05 at 350 (yards, not pounds!). Carter's getting better, while BMW has been getting worse.
That surely makes me forget Williams. You can’t be serious.
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