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All we can do is speculate right now, there isn't anything else to talk about. The other option is to stay in the off-topic forums, or not check out the site.
Everyone gets it, we don't know what is going to happen, but this could be used during the season too by saying "Sure we look good this week, but there is no way to predict what will happen next week".
That would pretty much render the site useless because there would be nothing to talk about. Saying the same thing in every thread is just a downer right now, we want to be positive fans.
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Amazing how whenever we say positive things about the Raiders, the same old crap pops up and spams the positive thread to death. "You can't know what's gonna happen in the future."
If that's true, you can't draft 'cause you have no idea how the kids will perform based on past performance.
Free agency? Ditto.
One think you can predict. When I start a positive thread about the Raiders chances, the same old crap spams the thread to death.
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The Kiffin firing and the Cable hiring marks the beginning of the turnaround for the franchise.
All the pieces are in place, and the anchor has been cut loose.
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The fact is we have a bunch of questionmarks and most playoff teams don't have those questions at the start of the season. There is usually a sleeper team like the Browns and there are always disappointments like the Rams. But usually there are more letdowns than there are surprises. Everyone wants to be that cinderella team but that isn't likely.
Why can't people just be realistic and settle for steady improvement? 6 wins would be a decent start considering we haven't won that many in any of the last 5 years. 7 wins would be a successful season in my eyes.
These players we have that people consider superstars like Thomas Howard, Justin Fargas, and Tommy Kelly are abundant on other teams. They are just good players. Unfortuneately, our perception has been blurred by all the losing. Either that or some people are just ignorant.
I can make a list for every other team in the league why they will be successful this year and make a playoff or superbowl run. That doesn't mean it will happen. There are only 12 playoff teams per year. 10 teams per conference wont make it. Sadly, we will most likely be one team that misses out, but if we show some improvement this year maybe we can make a run in 2009. Jmho.
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There is no reason to believe the run blocking won't be just as effective as last year if not better. That alone, plus adding McFadden, makes us solid right from the start. Jamarcus is a project, but seriously, I would much rather have him under centre than any one of the clowns we've trotted out there the past 4 years.
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LOL! The way JR was playing without pre-season and camp last year tells me he's gonna do pretty good.
If we have at least the same running game as last year, and we should, JRuss is gonna have it easy.
It's not like we're the NE Rats and need a QB to hit Moss all day. We can mix it up with somebody who looks to be a premier back, a home run threat.
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The Kiffin firing and the Cable hiring marks the beginning of the turnaround for the franchise.
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your right. except that there isnt a need for excitement when you know theyre gonna break your heart with horrible play.
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We all know whats wrong with this team. This is the time for excitement, and it has been a limited time in the past, trying to calm everyone down wont cause them to be any more happy with failure, if and when the time comes for that.
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Apparently not everyone knows what's wrong otherwise we wouldn't see threads like this started. No one has said anything negative, we are simply saying let's not go overboard yet particularly in May for heavens sake... What I find amusing is every thread the OP starts doesn't care to hear or read a difference of opinion and I guess that's what's ironic, those of us wanting to curb the enthusiasm get blasted as downers, only post negative blah blah and if we bring a different point of view it's not allowed...
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The fact is we have a bunch of questionmarks and most playoff teams don't have those questions at the start of the season. There is usually a sleeper team like the Browns and there are always disappointments like the Rams. But usually there are more letdowns than there are surprises. Everyone wants to be that cinderella team but that isn't likely.
Why can't people just be realistic and settle for steady improvement? 6 wins would be a decent start considering we haven't won that many in any of the last 5 years. 7 wins would be a successful season in my eyes.
These players we have that people consider superstars like Thomas Howard, Justin Fargas, and Tommy Kelly are abundant on other teams. They are just good players. Unfortuneately, our perception has been blurred by all the losing. Either that or some people are just ignorant.
I can make a list for every other team in the league why they will be successful this year and make a playoff or superbowl run. That doesn't mean it will happen. There are only 12 playoff teams per year. 10 teams per conference wont make it. Sadly, we will most likely be one team that misses out, but if we show some improvement this year maybe we can make a run in 2009. Jmho. |
Because they want to believe what they write that's why... I continue to read comments that everyone gets it, we all know what's wrong with this team etc. yet we see these threads as though they know with 100% assurance that this team is playoff bound is going to win the AFC etc. Then to top it off, we aren't allowed to have the opinion we do, because it doesn't jive with the OP thread.
I agree with you I prefer to see steady growth and improvement and take it one week at time, some live in a fantasy world then when it doesn't happen their enthusiasm is gone and they almost seem suicidal.
I've watched too many football games and have followed this team way to long to start preaching from the mountain tops about how they are going to light the league on fire. Just like I don't believe the hype from the media that the Raiders will be also rans... let's play some games first before we make either evaluation.
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Amazing how whenever we say positive things about the Raiders, the same old crap pops up and spams the positive thread to death. "You can't know what's gonna happen in the future."
If that's true, you can't draft 'cause you have no idea how the kids will perform based on past performance.
Free agency? Ditto.
One think you can predict. When I start a positive thread about the Raiders chances, the same old crap spams the thread to death.
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No kidding.
Why start a company?
Why have kids?
Why go on?
Yeah, we don't have all the answers. That's okay. We never had the answers in the last 10,000 years as far as I can tell... and you know what - we gave it our best shot and we did okay.
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Russell > McCown(avg110yds/G, 69.4 rating)
Wilson > Schweigert
Hall > Washington
Fargas,Rhodes,Jordan < Fargas,Bush,McFadden
We do not need speculation to see these are improvements.
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LOL!
Yeah, but it hasn't happened yet, so you can't say it. LOL!
You got it right.
Hall can break his leg and out cover Fabs 2007.
Stu was ok, but nobody's picking him over Wilson.
McFadden is a rook, but if he studies the playbook, he's ahead of Jordan.
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We know nothing of the sort. Where is it written they will play horribly?
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You are correct we don't know that, similarly we don't know they will play great either... I have no problem with this wishful thinking mode, but some people need to accept the fact that there are and will be differences of opinion.
I'm just as thrilled as the next guy for drafting McFadden and I'm hopeful the off-season pays dividends, but I'm not going to act as if this is the second coming of the 76' Raiders. I prefer to see the product on the field before I start crowing them division champions.
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