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**kennyrat923** · #76 (**permalink**) 03-26-2008, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by disposeablehero

Disagree, look at ASO's stats from last year, that is as close as shutdown as u get. They do make them like that, the difference is, the rules have changed since then to favour the receivers.

We can disagree. It's all good.

However, I still don't think Bailey, Aso, Cromartie, Trufant, Samuels or any DB in this league is in the same class as Deion, Lester Hayes, Darryl Green or Mel Blount.

That's JMHO which is why I said they don't make them like that any more. Who in your opinion playing now is as good a DB as Deion, Hayes, Green or Blount?

**disposeablehero** · #77 (**permalink**) 03-26-2008, 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by kennyrat923

We can disagree. It's all good.

However, I still don't think Bailey, Aso, Cromartie, Trufant, Samuels or any DB in this league is in the same class as Deion, Lester Hayes, Darryl Green or Mel Blount.

That's JMHO which is why I said they don't make them like that any more. Who in your opinion playing now is as good a DB as Deion, Hayes, Green or Blount?

Those guys played in an era with different rules that made it easier to shut down receivers, apples and oranges. This belief that athletes are not better then guys who played in the 70's is BS, the difference is the rules and game has changed, there have been corners as good as those guys.

**kennyrat923** · #78 (**permalink**) 03-26-2008, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by disposeablehero

Those guys played in an era with different rules that made it easier to shut down receivers, apples and oranges. This belief that athletes are not better then guys who played in the 70's is BS, the difference is the rules and game has changed, there have been corners as good as those guys.

BS?? So my opinion is BS just because I don't agree with you??

Ok bro. LMAO

The belief that atheletes aren't better has nothing to do with what I said and I never said anything like that.

All I said was IMHO Deion, Blount, Hayes and Green are better than any DB in the game today and I do believe that regardless of your remarks about that being BS.

The real BS is that you seem to think that you are right and I'm wrong and it's really not about that. This is an open forum and we are entitled to opinions.
Like I said at FIRST:

We don't have to agree. It's all good.

**disposeablehero** · #79 (**permalink**) 03-26-2008, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by kennyrat923

BS?? So my opinion is BS just because I don't agree with you??

Ok bro. LMAO

The belief that atheletes aren't better has nothing to do with what I said and I never said anything like that.

All I said was IMHO Deion, Blount, Hayes and Green are better than any DB in the game today and I do believe that regardless of your remarks about that being BS.

The real BS is that you seem to think that you are right and I'm wrong and it's really not about that. This is an open forum and we are entitled to opinions.
Like I said at FIRST:

We don't have to agree. It's all good.

It is BS, as you cannot compare DB's from that era to now, those guys would not get away with a lot of what they did back then. There is no such thing as best ever when discussing different eras.

**kennyrat923** · #80 (**permalink**) 03-26-2008, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by disposeablehero

It is BS, as you cannot compare DB's from that era to now, those guys would not get away with a lot of what they did back then. There is no such thing as best ever when discussing different eras.

On an open forum like this site is, I can make any comparison I like and state my opinions as I like just as you can. WE DONT HAVE TO AGREE.

Jolly Roger · #81 (**permalink**) 03-26-2008, 08:18 AM

Aso
Samuel
Hall
Trufant
Champ

silvermouse5150 · #82 (**permalink**) 03-26-2008, 11:26 AM

1. Nnamdi
2. DeAngelo
3. Routt
4. Fabian
5. Whoever our 5th CB is

*yes i am a homer.

**Raiderz_00** · #83 (**permalink**) 03-26-2008, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Charger

Jammer is a very good corner. He is under the radar cuz he's not an INT machine like Cromartie. But if opposing offenses start shying away from Cro, Jammer's picks should increase starting this season. Just watch.

Good Yes, but top5 Hell No!

Jae_Hood · #84 (**permalink**) 03-26-2008, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Thedeparted

why isnt Macalister in your picks is beyond me

I agree. Some people are actually picking Hall before McAlister??? C'mon now. I'm happy we got Hall and all, but he's a top 10 corner not a top 5.

Jae_Hood · #85 (**permalink**) 03-26-2008, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by or24

Why? Because he had 1 off year on a horrible defense? I personally think the talent of corners is very scarce. In the same respect I beleive you can get by with average corners as long as you have the ability to get to the qb. Plenty of bias against Cromartie and Bailey. Nate Clements is the most overrated corner in the league and it has nothing to do with him being a niner. He was never that big a name when in Buffalo, but he got a monster contract going to san francicso and at least at the time became the highest paid defensive player ever.

I agree good post.

**or24** · #86 (**permalink**) 03-26-2008, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Jae_Hood

I agree. Some people are actually picking Hall before McAlister??? C'mon now. I'm happy we got Hall and all, but he's a top 10 corner not a top 5.

Well he was hurt last year and a lot of people seem to be saying baltimore's defense is aging quickly. He was great in 2006 and is probably still a top corner. I only saw one baltimore game last year so i cant say for sure.