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Old 01-28-2008, 12:25 PM
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In another thread i pose the question that if kiffin was forced to stay due to the mexican stand-off then it could be the worst thing ever, because they'll continue to despise each other, and nag and have a go at each other, and ryan and kiffin too, and then you could have kiffin who just to give it back to al deliberately is destructive, the locker divided, and another shell-like type of dysfunction.
for the sake of the raiders moving forward, davis needs to find a way to remove kiffin (if thats what he wants) and let the new blood tackle the raiders job with zest and enthusiasm.



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but i agree that we bring in explosive offensive capabilities/players while bettering our running game, that russell will improve. But i still think Russell is mis-cast as the rolling out precision passing WCO. Not saying he cant do it, but it doesnt highlight his strengths, which is more gunslinging and making stuff happen ad lib a la Favre. But russell getting schooled with all the technical mechanics and footwork is a good thing that he's learned this year.
The thing is Kiffin does not have the resume to phuck up and create a split in Oakland. Not everybody is going to give him a shot based on other college coaches and based on how some owners view Davis in a postive way: IE Jerry Jones.

At the end I don't think you can bring back a guy that was exploring other options, you need to get somewhere else that is committed towards winning and a guy who'll be in the facility during the twilight hour.

You are right that simply running a modern day WCO does not take advantage of JR. You need to get a running game and get the ball going down field much in the same manner that Pitt is handling Roth.
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You mean he was coaching scared. And based on what I saw, I don't think the playbook has that much depth, in fact, the book is very basic... I dont think you can call the system good based on the production of the offense during spurts of games.
Calling certain plays to where the QB won't make a mistake yea I can agree with that.
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It seems like everyone is not wanting Kiffin back now, what the heck?
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Old 01-28-2008, 12:33 PM
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It seems like everyone is not wanting Kiffin back now, what the heck?
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It seems like everyone is not wanting Kiffin back now, what the heck?

I do want him back but you have to admit turning the Raiders around was going to be a hard enough task without having this linger over everybodies head all season. Every move made or not made is going to be looked at as is Kiffin just being a hard ass to get Al to fire him so he can still collect a pay check is Al not making any moves with players so that Kiffin can't win thus thwarting his chances of getting work elsewhere. It's just going to be a zoo unless they have some kind of press confrence and make us all believe they are on the same page. I don't know about you even in a press confrence they'll practically have to amke out or something for me to believe there aren't any lingering hard feelings.
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I'm thinking of turning into a Heel again. You know StoneCold Style. I did wrestle back in the day doing the backyard stuff and my name was BlackHeart. My move was the BlackOut but it was nothing but the RKO or Diamond Cutter lol good ol times
lol yea i didnt do backyard like that but me and my boys had a small federation i was called razor lol the razor cutter.
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It needs to end really. Now.
Davis will fire him imo if he knows people like Harbaugh is ready to come, or people like Saunders and Williams are interested but being courted by St Louis and Tennessee.

Davis will need to act. It'll hurt giving him the pay-out tho.
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Old 01-28-2008, 12:59 PM
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lol yea i didnt do backyard like that but me and my boys had a small federation i was called razor lol the razor cutter.
Razor huh ? lol You should've seen this one big dude I went against. His name was "The Hummer" and he was Champ for awhile until he wanted to
lose to me so I can have the belt cause he liked my character cause I was the Stonecold / Didn't give a damn type but I was only being myself lol. We did it all dude, The promos , Entrance music everything it was fun intil we grew out of it.
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There is a possibility that none of this ever happened and the Rumor Monger is just covering his ass. We may never know. Kiffin does not talk and either does Davis. I'm glad to have Kiffin back for 2008.
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It needs to end really. Now.
Davis will fire him imo if he knows people like Harbaugh is ready to come, or people like Saunders and Williams are interested but being courted by St Louis and Tennessee.

Davis will need to act. It'll hurt giving him the pay-out tho.
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