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**crizpynutz** · #1 (**permalink**) 01-10-2008, 07:00 AM

Okay, I've about had it with some of the attitudes and posts around here.

Countless times mods and staff have had to make a post like this asking for everyone to not bash each other, not condescend each other, not call each other names, harrass or belittler each other.

I'm ashamed and amazed that this simple concept cannot be heeded by so many members. I am not saying anyone has to post positive or negative comments. I'm not saying we have to all agree.

What I am saying is calling people (that includes members, players, coaches and owners) drones, kool-aid drinkers, zombies, assholes, fags, dillholes, stupid, idiots, dumb, questioning their fanhood, or other words that I have read in countless threads today is not and will not be tolerated. I am not sure how much more clear I or any of us mods can make this.

You wanna criticize Al Davis, go ahead, back it up with fact and accept that there will be those who don't agree with you. You wanna predict an undefeated season, go ahead, back it up with intelligent thought and accept that there will be those who don't agree with you.

You may think you are right, you may think that your point is the best and there is nothing wrong with that, but it's a public forumn and everyone has a right to post their views, and points without being attacked or belittled for it. EVERYONE!

The site has a definite left-wing, right-wing seperation in some ways right now and it's not gonna stand. Period.

And before I hear about "fair and equal treatment" - no I haven't been able to read every post in every thread by every poster today, but I am talking to all of you on all sides because it's happening all over by everyone. BK already stated this and I'm reitierating it - it stops NOW!!!!

Is that clear enough for everyone to understand?

**FLORIDARAYDAH** · #2 (**permalink**) 01-10-2008, 07:04 AM

Thanks.I dont know if it will do any good,some people just want to agitate others nonstop.Its not about disageeing its about people being being rude/obnoxious to others.Grow up folks its supposed to be a fun place to vent/voice our opinions like adults

**gdamac** · #3 (**permalink**) 01-10-2008, 07:05 AM

Understood, sorry if I have crossed the line.

blarney · #4 (**permalink**) 01-10-2008, 07:06 AM

Thank You, Crizpynutz.

**Silver&Black151** · #5 (**permalink**) 01-10-2008, 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crizpynutz

Okay, I've about had it with some of the attitudes and posts around here.

Countless times mods and staff have had to make a post like this asking for everyone to not bash each other, not condescend each other, not call each other names, harrass or belittler each other.

I'm ashamed and amazed that this simple concept cannot be heeded by so many members. I am not saying anyone has to post positive or negative comments. I'm not saying we have to all agree.

What I am saying is calling people (that includes members, players, coaches and owners) drones, kool-aid drinkers, zombies, assholes, fags, dillholes, stupid, idiots, dumb, questioning their fanhood, or other words that I have read in countless threads today is not and will not be tolerated. I am not sure how much more clear I or any of us mods can make this.

You wanna criticize Al Davis, go ahead, back it up with fact and accept that there will be those who don't agree with you. You wanna predict an undefeated season, go ahead, back it up with intelligent thought and accept that there will be those who don't agree with you.

You may think you are right, you may think that your point is the best and there is nothing wrong with that, but it's a public forumn and everyone has a right to post their views, and points without being attacked or belittled for it. EVERYONE!

The site has a definite left-wing, right-wing seperation in some ways right now and it's not gonna stand. Period.

And before I hear about "fair and equal treatment" - no I haven't been able to read every post in every thread by every poster today, but I am talking to all of you on all sides because it's happening all over by everyone. BK already stated this and I'm reitierating it - it stops NOW!!!!

Is that clear enough for everyone to understand?

Sorry if i was ever at fault (even though i dont think i was), but i completely agree!

**crizpynutz** · #6 (**permalink**) 01-10-2008, 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gdamac

Understood, sorry if I have crossed the line.

FYI, I am not calling anyone out personally. I appreciate the apology if you have, but to be honest, I don't want anymore apologies, I want it to stop. Period.

**LOUISVILLE R8R** · #7 (**permalink**) 01-10-2008, 07:07 AM

Got it. Thanks

draftnut22 · #8 (**permalink**) 01-10-2008, 07:09 AM

I completely agree with your assessment, however I have one thing to add. Can people please know what they are speaking of before they write it. Now it is one thing to have an opinion but quite another to say things like, "We should trade Burgess for a top 5 pick and draft Long and Dorsey". Anybody who knows anything knows this is impossible, so dont waste threads or people's times.

This should be a place where passionate Raider fans discuss the state of the team with well formed hypothesis, not rediculous conjecture. Have some respect for yourself and the site and I think all those words will be a thing of the past.

**Sonic Raider** · #9 (**permalink**) 01-10-2008, 07:12 AM

Understood

**RaiderInNY** · #10 (**permalink**) 01-10-2008, 07:12 AM

Jay is not playing...

**gdamac** · #11 (**permalink**) 01-10-2008, 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crizpynutz

FYI, I am not calling anyone out personally. I appreciate the apology if you have, but to be honest, I don't want anymore apologies, I want it to stop. Period.

Just acknowledging what you said and taking any responsibility I might share, I didn't think you called me out.

**MWRaider** · #12 (**permalink**) 01-10-2008, 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crizpynutz

Okay, I've about had it with some of the attitudes and posts around here.

Countless times mods and staff have had to make a post like this asking for everyone to not bash each other, not condescend each other, not call each other names, harrass or belittler each other.

I'm ashamed and amazed that this simple concept cannot be heeded by so many members. I am not saying anyone has to post positive or negative comments. I'm not saying we have to all agree.

What I am saying is calling people (that includes members, players, coaches and owners) drones, kool-aid drinkers, zombies, assholes, fags, dillholes, stupid, idiots, dumb, questioning their fanhood, or other words that I have read in countless threads today is not and will not be tolerated. I am not sure how much more clear I or any of us mods can make this.

You wanna criticize Al Davis, go ahead, back it up with fact and accept that there will be those who don't agree with you. You wanna predict an undefeated season, go ahead, back it up with intelligent thought and accept that there will be those who don't agree with you.

You may think you are right, you may think that your point is the best and there is nothing wrong with that, but it's a public forumn and everyone has a right to post their views, and points without being attacked or belittled for it. EVERYONE!

The site has a definite left-wing, right-wing seperation in some ways right now and it's not gonna stand. Period.

And before I hear about "fair and equal treatment" - no I haven't been able to read every post in every thread by every poster today, but I am talking to all of you on all sides because it's happening all over by everyone. BK already stated this and I'm reitierating it - it stops NOW!!!!

Is that clear enough for everyone to understand?

This is a good post, Cripz - as was BK's last post on this matter. I know we live in the age of where it is accepted that you should be able to tell people and they will comply.

I don't believe that this approach works with everyone. Sometimes you have to show that you mean what you are saying. I think everyone here has been giving adequate warning. If anyone refuses to comply, show them the door.

**crizpynutz** · #13 (**permalink**) 01-10-2008, 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MWRaider

This is a good post, Cripz - as was BK's last post on this matter. I know we live in the age of where it is accepted that you should be able to tell people and they will comply.

I don't believe that this approach works with everyone. Sometimes you have to show that you mean what you are saying. I think everyone here has been giving adequate warning. If anyone refuses to comply, show them the door.

And as Vic said, I ain't playin' no more. That door may start opening and closing really quick soon enough.