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Originally Posted by 66RAIDER66
NO NO NO>>>
This IS legal.
Teams have run this against us in Highschool.
1. You can have as many people in motion as you want!!!!
- as long as they all reset for 1 sec before snap of ball
2. You still need 7 on line of scrimmage.
3. No hashline requirements except for the BALL (placed by refs).
4. Formation is called "swinging gate" and HAS been used.
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this is all true, and yes, in the NFL. i once saw the bears attempt to run the swinging gate on a 4th down during a MNF game a couple years ago (it didnt work). ive also seen it on the HS level, its a gimmick play, it only really works if the defense is unprepared - we practiced how to line up vs it the week before and they shifted back into their regular XP attempt.
TE.T.G.C.G.T...................C
.................................................. ............WR.....WR
..........RB......................QB
ive seen it run like this where the QB gets the snap and can either pass it to the RB who runs it in (if the defense is not lined up there) or to either WR (who will probably run something like a smash combo or drags across the back of the endzone), or take off and run if there is no one lined up in front of the center.
basically how you play it is to put 2 good open-field tacklers on either side of the center, 2 cover guys on the WRs man-up, and your front 7 on the left side (4 DL + 3 LBs) - usually if the offense sees that they will shift back into regular formation and run a normal play.
it is legal to shift as much as you want anywhere you want as long as you reset for 1 second before the snap.....if they reset it is not considered motion but a SHIFT....if they did not reset 1 second there would be an illegal formation call. and yes the OL are allowed to move as long as it is not a sudden movement, a judgement call by the ref - many times when QBs audible (all QBs not just payton) it could be considered sudden, but it is rarely called. you see linemen calling out their blocking w/o false start calls.
both tackles are covered, one by the TE and the other by the C, the ref should be informed pre-game of the play and right before the C must check in as an eligible receiver (unless he is already wearing an eligible number, as per rules. there is no rules on gaps in the line, you see teams running all different kinds of line splits, and some punt protections line up with the A gaps wide open but filled with upbacks.
the reason you rarely see it at the NFL level is that all you have to do to defend it is line up properly, usually, it's based on causing confusion with the defense. must NFL players have probably seen some form of it somewhere and can put together a proper defense.
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