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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Terrific View Post
    2013 NFL Mock Drafts - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com

    Kind of an odd ball mock.

    2 different mocks have the Raiders picking Jarvis Jones in one and the other has them picking Barkevious Mingo, while Star Lotulelei drops to 9th and 10th
    Some people are still riding the Mingo train...underwhelming football player, overwhelming athletic ability.

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    Raiders still have the 3rd locked up.

    They still have a chance though to beat SD, I would favor the chargers, but it's a winnable game, depending on Palmer injury.

    Eagles 4-11 @ giants, lost
    Lions 4-11. home vs Bears, rivalry game, give edge to bears, could go either way
    Arizona 5-9 home vs Bears lost imo, , @ niners, lost
    Browns 5-9 @ broncos lost probably 5-10, @ Steelers, either way, go with steelers
    Titans 5-10 Jags home, win
    Bills 5-10 home vs Jets, possibly win

    my hypothetical ending

    Eagles 4-12
    Lions 4-12
    Cardinals 5-11
    Titans 6-10
    Bills 6-10

    If the Raiders beat SD, they could possibly pick 5th, thinking they win the tiebreaker over the Cardinals because of strength of schedule.

    Of course if the Raiders lose , they lock up the 3rd pick in the draft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Terrific View Post
    Raiders still have the 3rd locked up.

    They still have a chance though to beat SD, I would favor the chargers, but it's a winnable game, depending on Palmer injury.

    Eagles 4-11 @ giants, lost
    Lions 4-11. home vs Bears, rivalry game, give edge to bears, could go either way
    Arizona 5-9 home vs Bears lost imo, , @ niners, lost
    Browns 5-9 @ broncos lost probably 5-10, @ Steelers, either way, go with steelers
    Titans 5-10 Jags home, win
    Bills 5-10 home vs Jets, possibly win

    my hypothetical ending

    Eagles 4-12
    Lions 4-12
    Cardinals 5-11
    Titans 6-10
    Bills 6-10

    If the Raiders beat SD, they could possibly pick 5th, thinking they win the tiebreaker over the Cardinals because of strength of schedule.

    Of course if the Raiders lose , they lock up the 3rd pick in the draft.
    Yes if we tie with anyone we beat them on S.O.S so whether we finish 4-12 or 5-11 we will be ahead of whoever we are tied with in the draft .
    Right now . Right now still got the #3 overall pick though going into next week .

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaiderAg View Post
    Some people are still riding the Mingo train...underwhelming football player, overwhelming athletic ability.
    Mingo is one of those candidates that will be drafted way ahead of where he goes just because of his potential and upside. he's also going to be an attractive size/speed combo come Combine time that could further inflate his stock. he definitely didn't do enough this past season to warrant a pick in the top 20 IMO...but he does have Aldon Smith-type tools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metallica0688 View Post
    Yes if we tie with anyone we beat them on S.O.S so whether we finish 4-12 or 5-11 we will be ahead of whoever we are tied with in the draft .
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    So, if this is correct, worst case scenario would be the Raiders to have the 5th pick in the draft. So it can be either the 3rd, 4th or 5th pick in the draft after the season is over. If the Raiders win, they would win the tie breaker against any team that could possibly tie them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Terrific View Post
    So, if this is correct, worst case scenario would be the Raiders to have the 5th pick in the draft. So it can be either the 3rd, 4th or 5th pick in the draft after the season is over. If the Raiders win, they would win the tie breaker against any team that could possibly tie them.

    Yes any tie breakers with us we win them based on the S.O.S

    That yes right now if the Eagles and Lions lose next week and we beat the Chargers then we drop down to #5 overall for the draft regardless of what any one else does .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metallica0688 View Post
    Yes any tie breakers with us we win them based on the S.O.S

    That yes right now if the Eagles and Lions lose next week and we beat the Chargers then we drop down to #5 overall for the draft regardless of what any one else does .
    You are right, from this website, I'm not sure if it's updated , but it list the Raiders having the easiest schedule in the NFL. That is pretty unbelievable with the record that we have.

    NFL Football Power Ratings - NFL Team Strength of Schedule Power Rating

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    Post Week 16 Mock Draft

    Raiders picking #3 overall. Trade back to #7 overall (Buffalo) for a 2nd, 4th, and 5th round pick. Trade back then to #14 overall (New York Jets) for a 2nd round pick. Trade Rolando McClain for a 6th round pick. Raiders pick up 5th and 7th round picks via compensation and have an extra 7th rounder from Carolina. Raiders move to a 3-4 defense.

    Round 1 - Sheldon Richardson - DE/DT - Missouri
    Fantastic length, motor, and disruptive ability.
    Round 2 - Tony Jefferson - FS - Oklahoma
    Centerfield safety with great range. High football I.Q.
    Round 2 - Lane Johnson - OT - Oklahoma
    Very athletic T who can push Veldheer if he continues to struggle
    Round 3 - Shayne Skov - ILB - Stanford
    Intense, emotional LB who thrives in blitzing and run support
    Round 4 - Leon McFadden - CB - San Diego State
    Former WR turned into a strong cover corner
    Round 4 - Brandon Williams - NT - Southern Missouri
    Strong, athletic and versatile enough to play nose or end
    Round 5 - Mario Benavides - C - Louisville
    Tough center who is a good ZBS fit
    Round 5 - Darius Slay - CB - Mississippi State
    Underrated CB with good size, speed, and cover ability
    Round 6 - A.J. Klein - ILB - Iowa State
    Tough, sure tackler, good football I.Q., not so athletic
    Round 6 - Montori Hughes - NT - Tennessee-Martin
    NT depth
    Round 7 - Blaize Foltz - OG - TCU
    Tough run blocker
    Round 7 - Larry Webster - DE/OLB - Bloomsburg
    Small school freak athlete
    Round 7 - Charles Dieuseul - ILB - Mount Union
    Small school standout. Solid all around depth.

    QB - Carson Palmer
    RB - Darren McFadden
    FB - Marcel Reese
    WR - Denarius Moore
    WR - Rod Streater/Juron Criner
    TE - Brandon Myers
    LT - Jared Veldheer
    LG - Stefan Wisnewski
    C - Mario Benavides
    RG - Mike Briesel/Tony Bergstrom
    RT - Lane Johnson

    DE - Sheldon Richardson
    DT - Brandon Williams/Montori Hughes
    DE - Lamarr Houston
    OLB - Miles Burris
    ILB - Shayne Skov
    ILB - A.J. Klein
    OLB - Phillip Wheeler
    CB - Leon McFadden
    FS - Tony Jefferson
    SS - Tyvon Branch
    CB - Michael Huff/Darius Slay

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    Mock 1-
    Trade #3 to Lions #5 and Lions 2nd and 4th Round pick
    Trade #5 for both Rams 1st Round picks
    Trade First Rams Pick to Seahawks for Seahawks First Round and 3rd Round. Trade McFadden for 3rd Round pick and Trade McClain for 5th round. Switch to a 3-4 defense.

    1- Kawann Short- DE/DT- Purdue
    1- Jesse Williams- NT/DT-Alabama
    2- Kyle Van Noy- OLB-BYU
    3- Shane Skov- ILB- Stanford
    3- Kyle Long-OT- Oregon
    3- Bacarri Rambo-S- Georgia
    4- Stepfan Taylor- RB- Stanford
    4- Leon McFadden-CB- San Diego State
    5- Kiko Alonso-ILB-Oregon
    5- Darius Slay-CB- Mississippi State
    6- Ryan Griffen-TE-Connecticut
    7-Blaize Foltz- G- TCU
    7- John Wetzel- OT- Boston College

    QB- Carson Palmer
    RB- Stepfan Taylor/Mike Goodson
    FB- Marcel Reece
    WR- Denarius Moore
    WR- DHB/Streater
    TE- B. Meyers/Ryan Griffen
    LT Jared Veldheer
    LG Tony Bergstrom
    C S. Wisnewski
    RG Mike Brisiel
    RT Kyle Long

    Defense
    DE- Lamarr Houston
    DT- Jesse Williams
    DE-Kawann Short
    OLB- Kyle Van Noy
    ILB- Shane Skov
    ILB- Phillip Wheeler
    OLB- Miles Burris
    CB- Michael Huff/P. Adams
    FS- Bacarri Rambo
    SS- Tyvon Branch
    CB- Leon McFadden/D. Slay


    Alternate 1.
    Johnathan Banks instead of Kawann Short. Starting CB's are Banks and Huff with McFadden, Slay and Phillip Adams as quality back ups. Shaughnessy/Bilukidi start at Right DE.

    Either way, Our front 7 is transformed. We have the size and skill to stop the run, and our pass rush is revitalized with Skov, Van Noy, Burris, and Houston. Burris and Houston will both greatly benifit from the move to the 3-4, where they can play their more natural role. Williams will also free up Skov and Wheeler on inside blitzes.

    Our secondary will have more depth, with Rambo ball-hawking next to Branch, while Huff/Slay/McFadden/FA hold it down at corner.
    If we pick the alternative, Banks and Huff could become quite the tandem, and we'd still have great depth.

    Overall, a transformation of our D.

    On offense, We fill a huge need at RT, and bring in a developmental TE. Not bad.

    Thoughts?

    *If Van Noy does not declare for the draft, we draft Anthony Barr-OLB-UCLA instead

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChandlerM View Post
    Mock 1-
    Trade #3 to Lions #5 and Lions 2nd and 4th Round pick
    Trade #5 for both Rams 1st Round picks
    Trade First Rams Pick to Seahawks for Seahawks First Round and 3rd Round. Trade McFadden for 3rd Round pick and Trade McClain for 5th round. Switch to a 3-4 defense.

    1- Kawann Short- DE/DT- Purdue
    1- Jesse Williams- NT/DT-Alabama
    2- Kyle Van Noy- OLB-BYU
    3- Shane Skov- ILB- Stanford
    3- Kyle Long-OT- Oregon
    3- Bacarri Rambo-S- Georgia
    4- Stepfan Taylor- RB- Stanford
    4- Leon McFadden-CB- San Diego State
    5- Kiko Alonso-ILB-Oregon
    5- Darius Slay-CB- Mississippi State
    6- Ryan Griffen-TE-Connecticut
    7-Blaize Foltz- G- TCU
    7- John Wetzel- OT- Boston College

    QB- Carson Palmer
    RB- Stepfan Taylor/Mike Goodson
    FB- Marcel Reece
    WR- Denarius Moore
    WR- DHB/Streater
    TE- B. Meyers/Ryan Griffen
    LT Jared Veldheer
    LG Tony Bergstrom
    C S. Wisnewski
    RG Mike Brisiel
    RT Kyle Long

    Defense
    DE- Lamarr Houston
    DT- Jesse Williams
    DE-Kawann Short
    OLB- Kyle Van Noy
    ILB- Shane Skov
    ILB- Phillip Wheeler
    OLB- Miles Burris
    CB- Michael Huff/P. Adams
    FS- Bacarri Rambo
    SS- Tyvon Branch
    CB- Leon McFadden/D. Slay


    Alternate 1.
    Johnathan Banks instead of Kawann Short. Starting CB's are Banks and Huff with McFadden, Slay and Phillip Adams as quality back ups. Shaughnessy/Bilukidi start at Right DE.

    Either way, Our front 7 is transformed. We have the size and skill to stop the run, and our pass rush is revitalized with Skov, Van Noy, Burris, and Houston. Burris and Houston will both greatly benifit from the move to the 3-4, where they can play their more natural role. Williams will also free up Skov and Wheeler on inside blitzes.

    Our secondary will have more depth, with Rambo ball-hawking next to Branch, while Huff/Slay/McFadden/FA hold it down at corner.
    If we pick the alternative, Banks and Huff could become quite the tandem, and we'd still have great depth.

    Overall, a transformation of our D.

    On offense, We fill a huge need at RT, and bring in a developmental TE. Not bad.

    Thoughts?

    *If Van Noy does not declare for the draft, we draft Anthony Barr-OLB-UCLA instead
    I like all the players involved in the mock. I've mocked most of them to us at different times. My only thought would be that if we picked up Banks to go for more LB or DL depth with the fifth round pick. Also, Barr has already committed to going back to school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChandlerM View Post
    Mock 1-
    Trade #3 to Lions #5 and Lions 2nd and 4th Round pick
    Trade #5 for both Rams 1st Round picks
    Trade First Rams Pick to Seahawks for Seahawks First Round and 3rd Round. Trade McFadden for 3rd Round pick and Trade McClain for 5th round. Switch to a 3-4 defense.

    1- Kawann Short- DE/DT- Purdue
    1- Jesse Williams- NT/DT-Alabama
    2- Kyle Van Noy- OLB-BYU
    3- Shane Skov- ILB- Stanford
    3- Kyle Long-OT- Oregon
    3- Bacarri Rambo-S- Georgia
    4- Stepfan Taylor- RB- Stanford
    4- Leon McFadden-CB- San Diego State
    5- Kiko Alonso-ILB-Oregon
    5- Darius Slay-CB- Mississippi State
    6- Ryan Griffen-TE-Connecticut
    7-Blaize Foltz- G- TCU
    7- John Wetzel- OT- Boston College

    QB- Carson Palmer
    RB- Stepfan Taylor/Mike Goodson
    FB- Marcel Reece
    WR- Denarius Moore
    WR- DHB/Streater
    TE- B. Meyers/Ryan Griffen
    LT Jared Veldheer
    LG Tony Bergstrom
    C S. Wisnewski
    RG Mike Brisiel
    RT Kyle Long

    Defense
    DE- Lamarr Houston
    DT- Jesse Williams
    DE-Kawann Short
    OLB- Kyle Van Noy
    ILB- Shane Skov
    ILB- Phillip Wheeler
    OLB- Miles Burris
    CB- Michael Huff/P. Adams
    FS- Bacarri Rambo
    SS- Tyvon Branch
    CB- Leon McFadden/D. Slay


    Alternate 1.
    Johnathan Banks instead of Kawann Short. Starting CB's are Banks and Huff with McFadden, Slay and Phillip Adams as quality back ups. Shaughnessy/Bilukidi start at Right DE.

    Either way, Our front 7 is transformed. We have the size and skill to stop the run, and our pass rush is revitalized with Skov, Van Noy, Burris, and Houston. Burris and Houston will both greatly benifit from the move to the 3-4, where they can play their more natural role. Williams will also free up Skov and Wheeler on inside blitzes.

    Our secondary will have more depth, with Rambo ball-hawking next to Branch, while Huff/Slay/McFadden/FA hold it down at corner.
    If we pick the alternative, Banks and Huff could become quite the tandem, and we'd still have great depth.

    Overall, a transformation of our D.

    On offense, We fill a huge need at RT, and bring in a developmental TE. Not bad.

    Thoughts?

    *If Van Noy does not declare for the draft, we draft Anthony Barr-OLB-UCLA instead
    I've seen Stephan Taylor play tons of times over the past 2 seasons and I love the way he plays. He doesn't do one thing great but his overall game together (catching the ball, runs hard, runs between the tackle, takes a bunch of carries) makes him a great back. I think he's going to be a great RB in the NFL.

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    Christmas Update Mock Draft

    Raiders picking #3 overall. Trade back to #9 overall (Arizona) for a 2013 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 2014 3rd round pick. Trade Rolando McClain for a 6th round pick. Acquire 5th and 7th round compensation picks. 7th round pick from Carolina (Murphy) Move to a 3-4 defense.

    Round 1 - Sheldon Richardson - DE/DT - Missouri
    My top DL player of the draft. Richardson projects to be a J.J. Watt-esque player. Disruptive, plays with good length, never ending motor. Needs to increase his strength but has a fantastic first step. Has good size at 6-4, 295.
    Round 2 - Xavier Rhodes - CB - Florida State
    A big, tough, and physical CB with great cover skills. Completely shut down Michael Floyd last year. Floyd has great size (6-2, 210) and length and really fits as a #1 cover corner against large receivers
    Round 3 - Tony Jefferson - FS - Oklahoma
    A rangy, instinctual FS who drops due to size issues. At 5-10, 205 he isn't exactly the largest player out there, but he makes up for that with his football I.Q. Great closing speed, tackling ability, and pass defending .
    Round 3 - Shayne Skov - ILB - Stanford
    Hard nosed, tough LB who plays out of control. A good fit inside the 3-4 due to his blitzing and run stopping skills. Good size at 6-3, 242.
    Round 4 - Brandon Williams - DT/NT - Southern Missouri
    Big, athletic interior pass rusher with good skills in run blocking. Big at 6-3, 325. Very consistent as a 3 year starter.
    Round 4 - Brian Winters - OT - Kent State
    Big, tough, run blocker who plays very gritty. Good length and size (6-5, 310)
    Round 5 - Kiko Alonso - ILB - Oregon
    Solid overall LB prospect with good coverage skills.
    Round 6 - Sean Renfree - QB - Duke
    Big, strong QB prospect who isn't the fastest out there. Stands at 6-4, 225. Good developmental QB
    Round 6 - Montori Hughes - NT - Tennessee-Martin
    Big NT who gives our line depth.
    Round 7 - Blaize Foltz - G - TCU
    Tough G who is a strong run blocker.
    Round 7 - Charles Dieuseul - ILB - Mount Union
    Small school LB prospect with good run stopping skills. ST depth
    Round 7 - Jack Doyle - TE - Western Kentucky
    Tall (6-6, 245), athletic TE with good catch in traffic skills.

    QB - Carson Palmer/Terrelle Pryor/Sean Renfree
    RB - Darren McFadden/Mike Goodson/Jeremy Stewart/UDFA
    FB - Marcel Reese/FA - UDFA
    WR - Denarius Moore/Darrius Heyward-Bey
    WR - Rod Streater/Juron Criner/UDFA
    TE - Brandon Myers/David Ausberry/Jack Doyle
    LT - Jared Veldheer/FA
    LG - Tony Bergstrom/Blaize Foltz
    C - Stefan Wisniewski/Alex Parsons
    RG - Mike Briesel/Lucas Nix
    RT - Brian Winters/UDFA

    DE - Lamarr Houston/Christo Bilukidi/Jack Crawford
    NT - Brandon Williams/Montori Hughes
    DE - Sheldon Richardson/Desmond Bryant/UDFA
    OLB - Phillip Wheeler/FA
    ILB - Shayne Skov/Charles Dieuseul
    ILB - FA/Kiko Alonso
    OLB - Miles Burris/UDFA
    CB - Xavier Rhodes/Chimdi Chekwa/Bradian Ross
    FS - Tony Jefferson/Matt Giordono
    SS - Tyvon Branch/Mike Mitchell
    CB - Michael Huff/Phillip Adams/Joselio Hanson

    K - Sebastian Janikowski
    P - Marquette King

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    RaiderAg's Raiders Mock Draft V 5.0: Simple Picks

    Round 1: DE Bjöern Werner - Florida State
    Round 3: FS Bacarri Rambo - Georgia
    Round 4: CB Jamar Taylor - Boise State
    Round 6: ILB A.J. Klein - Iowa State
    Round 7: DT Omar Hunter - Florida
    Round 7: DT/DE Baker Steinkuhler - Nebraska

    *Werner, just take Best Pass Rusher Available. I think the kid has a motor and a relentless drive to destroy QB's and ball carriers. That's all we need. He is an absolute missle and will spark teammates around him as protections get rotated to his side.



    *Rambo, guy is a ball hawk. I really think he'll pick things up quickly and get after some of these jump balls that should've been picks this season. Branch and Giordano are not the ballhawks we all think they are...they're just average playmakers.



    *Taylor, good overall skills. Plays with a chip on his shoulder, and plays the run very well. We play a lot of zone, and honestly, it hasn't been too bad these past few weeks. Taylor should be able to do all that is asked of him. While Leon McFadden may have better pure cover skills, I think McFadden will be a 3rd Round pick because of that.



    *Klein, solid kid, going to need a new inside presence in either a 4-3 or a 3-4. Klein may go sooner, but ILBs are not in high demand...as good as Te'o would look in a Raider jersey, I still think it's too high a premium to pay for a MLB with minimal impact on the field. You can find intangibles, inspiration and leaders in the mid to later rounds, and I think Klein is a kid who can do that without being asked to do it.



    *I think Hunter got caught up in the wash at UF. He's often overlooked because he isn't excessively long at only 6'-0" or so, but his play is underrated. Got caught up in some comments about the last days of Urban Meyer in Gainesville...the "Out For Himself" interview. Hunter identified with Muschamp a whole lot more than Meyer, and Muschamp is a guy more in line with Reggie's personnel philosophy.



    *Steinkuhler. His absence vs. Wisconsin in the Big 10 Championship game was very, VERY evident. He is coming off a knee injury, but in the 7th Round, you take your chances. He's a guy who could play 4-3 DT or 3-4 DE. With Houston likely to move inside more and more with Seymour/Kelly all but out of Oakland, the need for DE's, versatile ones, will be key. A couple other late round "Wait and See" type guys are Penn State ILB Michael Mauti and Western Kentucky DE Quanterus Smith. Both are great players when healthy, but have had rotten luck their senior seasons.



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    just to keep the trend, here's my no trades no comp picks draft:

    1st Round: DT Star Lotulelei Utah - Lotulelei would be a rock in the middle of the defense eating up multiple blockers and freeing up LBs

    3rd Round: CB David Amerson NC State - speed is questionable, but ball skills are not...has a nose for the ball and a good feel in coverage...IMO best fit is at FS

    4th Round: DE Margus Hunt SMU - had an amazing bowl performance, but Hunt is raw and still developing as a football player....with consistency he could develop into a very good starter

    6th Round: LB/S Kenny Tate Maryland - hybrid prospect who's got plenty of experience at both positions, could be the nickel LB on obvious passing downs

    7th Round: WR Erik Highsmith UNC - big and fast possession WR who has a great catch radius and is good running after the catch...he'll be better in the pros

    7th Round: DT Kaleb Ramsey Boston College - Ramsey is a handful when healthy, he'd be a good gamble this late in the draft if he can stay on the field

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    Walters Mock drafts have the Raiders selecting star lotulelei

    I'm not aware of the Jags defensive tackles, but from what I'm hearing is that they need a pass rusher. Don't think Babin will hang around if he is able to test the FA market.

    Queefs need a QB bad, I wonder if they would go 2nd round for a QB or trade down, Chiefs can take bpa too or stand their ground and take the best QB available in their eyes that will stand out from the rest of the QB's

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