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Reply With QuoteThat's the OC register for you. One of the worst newspapers out here.Originally Posted by Jigeneh
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It reeks of satire. Can't really take it as credible baseball news. I hope you don't get offended cuz you're the one who posted it, that's not my intent at all.
That's the OC register for you. One of the worst newspapers out here.
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Thanks for clarifying. Wow, that was painful to read.
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A's Acquire Matt Holliday: MLB Rumors - MLBTradeRumors.com
Wow, HUGE trade for the A's.A's Acquire Matt Holliday
By Tim Dierkes [November 10, 2008 at 2:20pm CST]
2:54pm: ESPN's Jerry Crasnick confirmed Smith is in the deal.
2:39pm: Troy Renck says the A's had been offering Street and Gonzalez. Meanwhile ESPN adds Ryan Sweeney and Gonzalez to their mix of players discussed.
2:30pm: Brown says the two teams have agreed in principle to a deal that will send Gonzalez, Smith, and Street to the Rockies.
2:24pm: The ESPN report now says Brett Anderson was under discussion as well as Smith.
2:03pm: The ESPN guys talked to A's assistant GM David Forst, who said, "It's still an ongoing discussion."
2:00pm: Ken Rosenthal chimes in. The deal may not be finalized for about 48 hours. Players discussed over the weekend: Carlos Gonzalez, Huston Street, and Smith. Rosenthal says the A's do not plan to flip Holliday or trade him in July. Rosenthal also says the A's could increase payroll to as high as $80MM, which could mean $25-30MM to play with.
1:57pm: ESPN's Buster Olney and Jerry Crasnick say the two teams have agreed to terms, and believe pitcher Greg Smith was under discussion.
1:51pm: Yahoo's Tim Brown also says a deal is close.
1:27pm: According to SI.com's Jon Heyman, the A's traded for Rockies outfielder Matt Holliday. More as it comes in!
But, will they just let him walk after the season, or will they trade him mid-season and try to get more than they gave up for him?
Either way, it is huge news.
woW - Oakland A's getting a quality player? This has to be a payroll move like you stated Jig
Big news. But, if I'm them, might as well flip him to another club, 'cause there is no way he is re-signing there or they can afford him/build a team around him.
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Holiday!
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That seems to be the consensus. The feeling is that the Holliday situation will be dictated by the success/failure of the Oakland A's season.
IMO, the Yankees will NOT be in the market for this guy is the A's are looking to trade him in July since Beane has a propensity to ask for the moon.
Jeez, look who comes out of the woodwork.Holiday!
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Yankees Sign Damaso Marte?: MLB Rumors - MLBTradeRumors.com
Okay, well they decline the 1 year $6M option and sign him for 3 years/$4M per. Its not a bad deal. I still don't know if he will be able to handle NY, but its not the type of figures that handcuffs a team, so its worth the risk IMO. Marte has good stuff.Yankees Sign Damaso Marte?
By Tim Dierkes [November 12, 2008 at 9:01am CST]
According to Impacto Deportivo, the Yankees signed Damaso Marte to a three-year, $12MM deal (link is in Spanish). The Yanks had declined a $6MM option for 2009 earlier.
It's good news for Marte, who was saddled with Type A status. Marte is getting up there a bit; he'll be 34 in February. He initially had a rough go of it with the Yankees, battling elbow inflammation. Fortunately, Marte finished strong with a 1.64 ERA in his final 15 games.
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Furcal
Suzuki
Holliday
Giambi
Blake/Crede
Cust
Brown
Ellis
Buck
Speed at top and bottom, Exit Chavez, Crosby, and maybe Cust....would rather have Thomas as DH. A's need to make a run and lock up New Stadium deal and Season ticket buyers this and next year.
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That would be a pretty nice little lineup. I have no idea what their rotation or bullpen would look like though. I keep hearing that they have tons of young pitching, but I don't know how much they'll get out of it this year. Young pitching is extremely risky to depend on, and I know that a team like the A's have no choice really due to financial restrictions, but outside of Duchsherer (whatever), I have no idea what they'll look like.
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With the Marte re-signing, the Yankees bullpen seems to be the only thing that can be considered complete.
The rest of the team is in the process of a major overhaul it seems...
2009 NYY before FA(as of 11/12)
C- Posada
1B- ??
2B- Cano
SS- Jeter
3B- Rodriguez
LF- Nady
CF- Gardner
RF- ??
SP- Wang
SP- Chamberlain
SP- ??
SP- ??
SP- ??
RP- Marte
RP- Bruney
RP- Coke
SU- Veras
SU- Ramirez
CL- Rivera
*I expect Sanchez to contribute at some point this season and Melancon to possibly be a vital part, and eventually be the closer.
This roster needs a lot of adjusting!
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Kruk claims that his "sources" told him that the Yankees are going to begin their pursuit of Teixeira by offering him 7 years. Michael Kay said the same thing apparently. We'll see how reliable they are.
And I also have heard that the Angels are holding off their bidding. WTF are they doing? Why would they want to wait until the freaking Yankees make a bid in an offseason where they are shedding over $80M off of their payroll? It just doesn't make sense to me not to at least try. Manny is a Boras client too and at least the Dodgers gave a starting point in the negotiations.
They are also making C.C. Sabathia their #1 priority supposedly, as they see their starting rotation as their biggest need.
The Angels are idiots. The need a bat like Tex, they should try to keep him. I don't want hear anything about a guy in waiting or someone they feel can fill that void. That guy can play, was productive there and added to that line-up. Oh well...F-'em.
As for the Yanks, yeah, I like how they dealt with Marte. He wasnt the same pitcher when he got to NY after the trade, but the moves they made to re-acquire him at that cost was solid and cost efficient.
CC is all but a Yank if you hear many talk. So to me, the only questions are;
Who will be the other pitcher they sign? Burnett, Lowe, Perez? What are they doing with Pettite who wants to return? Is Mussina staying retired, or will he try to cash in somewhat on his big-year and/or go after that plateau of wins? Will they go after Cameron or some other CF, or settle back in with Melky, who is solid defensively, or a Gardner and hope that the rest of the line-up produces as they should and not like they did in '08. And then obviously 1B...
As for my Muts, who knows. They need a closer. I don't want to buckle in to K-Rod's demands. But, there isnt much of a market for him. There are only 3-4 teams that can genuinely go after him that are contenders/on the cusp teams that can then actually compensate him. Even the agent admitted it. And if the Mets give him a decent 4-year offer, and he'll have a chance still at a young age early 30s in a few years to go back onto the market, he'll jump on it. H.Street I don't like, unless he is a guy to add for depth in the 'pen, B.Fuentes I wouldnt mind, especially if you get him and Street. Trading for Jenks would be ideal, or paying KROD as long as its not a back-breaker.
If there is anyoone that could take Castillo, eat a tad of his deal, and open up 2B for another guy (there a couple out there I would take in a heart-beat), it should be done.
Oh, and they need a guy like Lowe just as bad as the Yanks. He is a innings eater, who is a tough competitor, has pitched in the AL east, and is the type of grinder you want.
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Yeah, I just don't understand the Angels approach in all of this. Now you hear that if they can't get Teixeira, they'll go hard after Manny.
I am not getting my hopes up on C.C. I know that the Yankees will do whatever they can in terms of compensation, but it scares me whenever I hear that crap about "friends saying he'd prefer the west coast/NL, likes hitting, etc." I know that after the season, he said that he'd play anywhere, but you don't know what's true and what isn't. I've heard that the Yankees intend to offer him a 6 year/$150M contract. That trumps Santana's contract, and not one team would come remotely close to that offer. We'll see. As I've always said, if deep down he doesn't wanna come here, I wouldn't want him anyway.
The Mets have to go for K-Rod, I think. Can't let Wagner dictate the way they think. He improves their weakest area big time. It really seems like a match made in heaven. Just like Teixeira and Sabathia being the perfect fit for the NYY, K-Rod is for the Mets. Lowe would be nice for the Mets too. You interested in Burnett? Manny? I can't believe that the Mets won't be involved in the Manny sweepstakes at all. They need OF help too.As for my Muts, who knows. They need a closer. I don't want to buckle in to K-Rod's demands. But, there isnt much of a market for him. There are only 3-4 teams that can genuinely go after him that are contenders/on the cusp teams that can then actually compensate him. Even the agent admitted it. And if the Mets give him a decent 4-year offer, and he'll have a chance still at a young age early 30s in a few years to go back onto the market, he'll jump on it. H.Street I don't like, unless he is a guy to add for depth in the 'pen, B.Fuentes I wouldnt mind, especially if you get him and Street. Trading for Jenks would be ideal, or paying KROD as long as its not a back-breaker.
If there is anyoone that could take Castillo, eat a tad of his deal, and open up 2B for another guy (there a couple out there I would take in a heart-beat), it should be done.
Oh, and they need a guy like Lowe just as bad as the Yanks. He is a innings eater, who is a tough competitor, has pitched in the AL east, and is the type of grinder you want.
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