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    Quote Originally Posted by migman33 View Post
    Thats it im HIGH JACKING THIS DUMBASS THREAD....


    NEW THREAD IS... IF Dallas is offering up BArber and both their picks and if the dolphins are very interested maybe we should jump in and give them our pick, they could very well land McFadden, we get a solid RB and more draft picks. WHat yall think???
    I think you should demand $200,000 in small bills and parachute into legend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Towner13 View Post
    Al wants the Raiders to win more then we anyone in the world... trust me.

    His problem is he is old... Old is synonomous with irrationally stubborn. It's also synonomous with "Losing a step"...

    Al has become an Irrationally stubborn man, who has lost a whole lot of Steps and is his own worst enemy despite his heart wanting the Raiders to win.

    He's always been stubborn, now that he's old, he may just be the most stubborn person on this planet.
    Al has become a curmudgeon...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ice4444 View Post
    Al is showing in no uncertain terms that he doesn't give a damn about us or the team.
    This is a ridiculous statement. Even if you dont like Al Davis, there is NO ONE that wants the Raiders to win more than Al Davis. Jim Otto once said last year that the losing greatly affects Mr. Davis health. He signs superstars, spends money, and does whatever he thinks was right.

    His decisions you can question which I GREATLY do; since Ron Wolf left the Raiders drafts are awful. But NEVER question his dedication to the Raiders winning.

    To the fans, thats how it's always been. fans of today haven't a clue to what the tradition was. Sports Illustrated had a poll among players and coaches and the Oakland Coliseum was voted the hardest place to play in the NFL and it wasnt' that close. Even with such success and loyalty they moved to L.A., and other than a few years, they've never recovered.
    Tried to rep you, bro but I have to spread it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J-Money View Post
    Lincoln Kennedy was one of my favorite Raiders O-linemen and he was interviewed on Rome's show on ESPN radio today. Rome also talked about the Raiders after Kennedy was gone, and here's what got to me. Kennedy has his own show and he said he's never had so many Raider fans say they will not support the team any more until Al Davis is gone. As I said in the poll thread about this on this site, I believe this mess with Kiffin is the straw that broke the camel's back for a lot of us fans. Al is showing in no uncertain terms that he doesn't give a damn about us or the team. It's all about him and his 1/32nd of the revenue sharing plan in the NFL. He makes millions while us blue-collar types can't even afford to go to a &*$%(#$% game! In today's NFL you have to have a very smart and professional coach, a strong GM and a great staff to build a winner. Al thinks he can do it all himself, with hand puppets carrying out his wishes. It's why we've sucked for so many years. The Gruden years were a blip on the radar and they won't be back. Nobody will want to be a part of this medieval torture chamber.
    yawn.

    Gee it couldn't be a college peon, cant handling the nfl, who was contacting colleges DURING THE SEASON.

    Gee real hard game planning Lance Petrino, wonder if he knows that game planning is different than life planning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by migman33 View Post
    Thats it im HIGH JACKING THIS DUMBASS THREAD....


    NEW THREAD IS... IF Dallas is offering up BArber and both their picks and if the dolphins are very interested maybe we should jump in and give them our pick, they could very well land McFadden, we get a solid RB and more draft picks. WHat yall think???

    You've been trying to talk about this draft scenario for days! You crack me up man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaiderOfTheSith View Post
    yawn.

    Gee it couldn't be a college peon, cant handling the nfl, who was contacting colleges DURING THE SEASON.

    Gee real hard game planning Lance Petrino, wonder if he knows that game planning is different than life planning.
    I'd be careful with the name calling. I've seen people get banned for calling Al names.

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    aint gonna change so either jump ship...or stay aboard and ride it out...once things for sure I aint going nowhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ice4444 View Post
    Al is showing in no uncertain terms that he doesn't give a damn about us or the team.
    This is a ridiculous statement. Even if you dont like Al Davis, there is NO ONE that wants the Raiders to win more than Al Davis. Jim Otto once said last year that the losing greatly affects Mr. Davis health. He signs superstars, spends money, and does whatever he thinks was right.

    His decisions you can question which I GREATLY do; since Ron Wolf left the Raiders drafts are awful. But NEVER question his dedication to the Raiders winning.

    To the fans, thats how it's always been. fans of today haven't a clue to what the tradition was. Sports Illustrated had a poll among players and coaches and the Oakland Coliseum was voted the hardest place to play in the NFL and it wasnt' that close. Even with such success and loyalty they moved to L.A., and other than a few years, they've never recovered.
    the only thing wrong with this statement is the part about he does what HE thinks is/was right. imo he needs to let other people either make those decisions or factor into them.
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    Even if you dont like Al Davis, there is NO ONE that wants the Raiders to win more than Al Davis.
    This is the biggest lie, oft repeated, of all. Look at Al's past. He was maybe good on the field, and certainly brilliant in the board room, in the 60's. With the help of Ron Wolf he made the Raiders competitive later. His trash to treasure signings are more often stupid than successful. He is surrounded by scychophants ("King Al!" and still thinks it is 1965. He has spent more energy suing Oakland, Socal municipalities, and the NFL than he has spent on this team OVER THE LAST TWENTY YEARS. He never goes anywhere without a ready scapegoat.

    Al doesn't care about winning. The glohry of the Raidahs has to do with coin, and a pathetic old man trying to get over on anyone that doesn't smell his shorts and agree they smell like Old Spice.

    Powah, deniability, coin.

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    I really believe if Al gives more control over to Kiffin, and hires a good GM, this mess will be fixed fast....and Al can sit back and enjoy.....but, Al can't give it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by migman33 View Post
    Thats it im HIGH JACKING THIS DUMBASS THREAD....


    NEW THREAD IS... IF Dallas is offering up BArber and both their picks and if the dolphins are very interested maybe we should jump in and give them our pick, they could very well land McFadden, we get a solid RB and more draft picks. WHat yall think???
    I dont think that is a bad idea. Dont think it will happen but not bad. Still like Mcfadden though. :

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    Quote Originally Posted by migman33 View Post
    Thats it im HIGH JACKING THIS DUMBASS THREAD....


    NEW THREAD IS... IF Dallas is offering up BArber and both their picks and if the dolphins are very interested maybe we should jump in and give them our pick, they could very well land McFadden, we get a solid RB and more draft picks. WHat yall think???
    Hahahaha...

    Actually it isn't a pipe dream now that I thought about it. LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ice4444 View Post
    Al is showing in no uncertain terms that he doesn't give a damn about us or the team.
    This is a ridiculous statement. Even if you dont like Al Davis, there is NO ONE that wants the Raiders to win more than Al Davis. Jim Otto once said last year that the losing greatly affects Mr. Davis health. He signs superstars, spends money, and does whatever he thinks was right.

    His decisions you can question which I GREATLY do; since Ron Wolf left the Raiders drafts are awful. But NEVER question his dedication to the Raiders winning.


    Totally agree.

    Mr. Davis wants to win as much or more than any other owner in the NFL.

    If anything, that's one of his shortcomings - making decisions he feels will help us win now rather than build for the future.

    Are the decisions always right? Nope.

    Are they always intended to help the Raiders win? IMHO, without exception.

    I wonder how many people would actually meet Mr. Davis in person, have a meaningful conversation about football and survive with such misguided thoughts intact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by migman33 View Post
    Thats it im HIGH JACKING THIS DUMBASS THREAD....


    NEW THREAD IS... IF Dallas is offering up BArber and both their picks and if the dolphins are very interested maybe we should jump in and give them our pick, they could very well land McFadden, we get a solid RB and more draft picks. WHat yall think???


    The answer, my friend, is 42.

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    Kiffin isnt going anywhere

    I have no doubt that Lane and Al butted heads, I have no doubt that Al sent him the resignation letter.

    However, I do believe that the story is being blown out of proportion. And trust me on Friday afternoon I too was convinced that Kiffin was toast, I woke up Saturday thinking there was going to be a headline "DAVIS FIRES KIFFIN AFTER ONE SEASON"

    But then, Mortensen himself admitted that the letter was sent 3 weeks ago. And now this week Lane is interviewing candidates for the coaching staff. If Lane was done here, why would he be interviewing Lofton and allegedly Saunders? Doesnt add up.

    Theres a theory being kicked around that I cannot take credit for, but agree with. Lane tries to fire Rob, Al vetoes him, Lane gets pissed off and tells Al to fire him if he cannot have control over his staff. Al in turn reminds Kiffin that hes yet to actually win in the NFL and hasnt yet warranted the benefit of the doubt. I think Rob Ryan deserved to be fired, but thats a whole other debate.

    Al allowed Gruden to fire Willie Shaw, but that was after Gruden had been here for 2 seasons and had the Raiders in Wild Card contention both years. We would have won the west in 99 with a decent kicking game. Lane isnt quite there yet, after all we did go 4-12 this year. I guess what Im trying to say is that Lane hasnt done enough in the NFL just yet to get the type of control that he covets, and given his inexperience that may be a good thing.

    But anyway, after Lane tells Al to fire him, Al sends him the letter, basically saying "This is your job description, this is how much authority you have, you dont like it sign on the dotted line"

    3 weeks later and Kiffin hasnt signed the letter, not only that but he is now interviewing coaches for the staff. My gut feeling tells me this whole thing has blown over. Kiffin stays, Id place a wager on it.

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