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    Did the Chargers Screw Up

    Letting Drew Brees go?

    Drew Brees's shoulder looks like it is 100% healed in New Orleans.

    Question to my fellow Raiders fans.....

    Are you glad that he gone and do you think Rivers can be better?
    What do you guys think of Brees and will New Orleans be happy with him?
    Would you rather Drew Brees as the Raiders QB instead of Brooks?
    Will this help the Raiders this year?

    I value you guys opinion because I've never really followed his career and now he's our starting guy.

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    Yes they screwed up by letting him go!
    But why are you posting this in Raiders discussion?

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    the chargers ALWAYS screw up. its their nature...
    We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here. - Al Davis

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaintsFanMan
    Letting Drew Brees go?

    Drew Brees's shoulder looks like it is 100% healed in New Orleans.

    Question to my fellow Raiders fans.....

    Are you glad that he gone and do you think Rivers can be better?
    What do you guys think of Brees and will New Orleans be happy with him?
    Would you rather Drew Brees as the Raiders QB instead of Brooks?
    Will this help the Raiders this year?

    I value you guys opinion because I've never really followed his career and now he's our starting guy.

    The Unknown Saints Fan Askith Again.
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    Maybe.
    Welcome to the internet where you are free to post stupid sh*t...

    BTW: I was d-mac before Darren McFadden was even born......so don't go there girlfriend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaintsFanMan
    Did the Chargers screw up letting Drew Brees go?
    This is the $10 million question on the minds of all Chargers fans. We have argued this question among ourselves to the death; blood has been spilled on the Chargers fan boards over this very question.

    I personally like Drew Brees and think he is a winner. For example, Chargers fans have an inferiority complex when it comes to the Raiders, because the Raiders have had their heels on our throats for most of the past four decades. But Brees was money against the Raiders: 6-2 as a starter vs the Silver and Black; including a 3-1 record in Oakland and five consecutive victories dating back to 2003.

    I personally hated to see him leave, for that reason. If the Chargers lose their opening game to the Raiders because of poor play by Philip Rivers, I will be be pizzed at Chargers' G.M. for letting Brees go.

    That said, Brees has obvious limitations. He is listed at 6', but I am not sure he's even that tall. Some say Brees lacks arm strength. Brees supporters say this is bull bleep; Brees is a hard worker and a gym rat. However, there is no denying that he consistently under-threw WRs on long routes. His detractors would write furious diatribes on the fan boards about how Eric Parker and Keenan McCardell had to stop and wait for a Brees pass, and that Brees weak arm cost his WRs YAC.

    My personal analysis is that Brees is a very good system QB. He is very smart. He is super dedicated. He will never disappoint you in his ethic. His teammates love him. Surround him with talent on offense and design a solid system that plays to his strengths and protects his weaknesses, and he will produce for you. He will not make bonehead decisions, which I knew Saints fans came to expect from their QB over the past few seasons.

    Brees was inconsistent last season. He does tend to hang onto the ball too long and if your O-line is not good (the Chargers' O-line sucked the back half of last season), he will take sacks and turn the ball over. If you can find video of his last play as a Charger when he was injured, you will see what I mean. Some say Brees emerged because of the presence of Antonio Gates; our Pro Bowl tight end provided Brees a huge target and he didn't have to be that accurate with his throws because Gates is so good at screening off defenders. I think this is a valid assessment.

    Well, I have tried to be candid and objective in this analysis, which is far from complete. I hope it is helpful.

    Peace,

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    well besides Rich Gannon being a running threat as old as 34 (but yes not in his later years) and Rich Being tall

    they sound similar: make up for arm strength by being in a system thats perfect for their arm strength, and the whole gym rat/study thing

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    Brees was bad, he'd be an improvement over Collins but i didn't want him at all. Rivers will be fine, just not this season. I dont know how Brees will do in NO

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    Quote Originally Posted by raiderArt
    the chargers ALWAYS screw up. its their nature...

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    The Bolts are a bunch of idiots...

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    It's a rhetorical question. Screwing up and the Dolts goes together like tijuana and crack.

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    I think they did screw up for now I mean why let go of a pro-bowl QB. I know Rivers is a 1st round pick but he's still unproven. You never know he could pan out and be better than Brees but hopefully he doesn't!

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    Access pretty much hit the nail on the head.....He's an excellent leader, but physically.....He has alot of limitations when it comes to playing the position of QB in the NFL.....

    I think his teammates respected him because he was always very professional, never complained about much, etc....but I think some of the receivers on the team weren't always as forthcoming about Brees as they could have been. Watch the Pitt/SD game from last year. Brees' flutterballs almost single-handedly got Antonio Gates killed that night. More times than not, the ball was never thrown near the WRs numbers.....and was often too high on intermediate routes, or thrown short on "go" routes. Parker, McCardell and Gates all have outstanding hands and that helped out Drew alot....

    Alot of Brees supporters always bring up the point that Brees tried to underthrow the WRs on those "go" routes on purpose so the WR can come back to the ball, but that's a weak excuse for an underthrown ball.

    All in all, he'll make much better decisions than you were accustomed to seeing from Brooks, and he's uber-dedicated to his job. It'll be interesting to see how much velocity he can put on his passes this season, with the torn up shoulder recuperation.....

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    Me personally, I think letting him go was a bold move. Even with their good defense, I believe him leaving will hurt the Chargers this year over keeping him. Having said that, Phillip Rivers has a lot of upside and in the coming years this may prove to be a wise and sage move on thier part. Only time will tell, but I think it may have been a bold move. That is of course, just my humble opinion...

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    I also believe that if Brees shoulder heals up completely that he should do okay in New Orleans. His past performance indicates that he should do no less.
    Last edited by WookieRaider; 07-07-2006 at 12:46 PM.

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    I think it was a decision they had to make. They didn't want to gamble on his shoulder and they didn't want to continue to dump 10mil a year in cap space on two QB's that could potentialy start anywhere. Brees will do OK in NO if he isn't forced into an offense where they live and die by the long pass. Rivers in S.D. will take his licks and look lost at first but will pick it up as the season goes. I'm hoping we get our win on 9/11 because of an inexperienced Rivers. I'm hoping we get our #2 win to complete the sweep because our team gels at the right time of year and makes a push into the playoffs. JMHO..
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