Officials spotted San Diego 9-24 points in the 1st Quarter.

[Dokie85]

Ouch, a knee to the unmentionables.

[ekgraider]

Some people will cling to any conspiracy theory they can in order to avoid facing the truth. I guess the only reason the raiders aren't winning is because it's all a NFL conspiracy. They'd be undefeated now and on their way to the Superbowl but the refs are out to get them.

Sad.

you guys beat us good i have no problem admitting that but that non call on moss was baloney!

[romeo13]

Hands on the arm, AND, the guy who goes up without playing the ball... and gets there first...

First you try to assert that if a DB touches the ball, its not PI, then you just don't see it???

Both are pass interference and should have been called...

Even the announcers, who are very carefull about talking about bad ref'n talked about it at the game.... if you don't see PI there ... wow... just wow... take off yer blinders....

But then... I guess it all depends on what is... is....

[coloradoraider]

The Raiders get the worse penalties in the nfl, and the refs don't call many penalties to the opposing team as much (when playing the Raiders). Thats a fact and anyone who can't see that is obviously stupid or knows nothing about Football.

Does it affect the outcome of the game? Absolutly.

Bottom line is we overcame this in the past, we have to overcome this today and its not an excuse for losing games.

I absolutely agree. Look, we have definately received a lot of bad calls this year, but calls alone have not cost us games. After every bad call that was made this year we have had a chance to make a play and not let if hurt us, but we haven't done so. You can't focus on things you have no control over, and officiating is one of them. The Raiders need to focus on the things they do have control over, like playing better and smarter football.

As a player or a coach you can't put yourself in a position to let an official's call cost you the game. If you do then you have not done your job.

[romeo13]

And I make another assertion here....


Would you admit you are biased to the Bolts viewpoint???

And you don't see PI????

and the Ref didn't see PI???

Even though everyone else including commentators do see PI???

Can you see why we, as Raider fans get a bit suspicious when this happens every dam week???

[L.T.21]

Hands on the arm, AND, the guy who goes up without playing the ball... and gets there first...

First you try to assert that if a DB touches the ball, its not PI, then you just don't see it???

Both are pass interference and should have been called...

Even the announcers, who are very carefull about talking about bad ref'n talked about it at the game.... if you don't see PI there ... wow... just wow... take off yer blinders....

But then... I guess it all depends on what is... is....

The same announcing crew who was obviously biased.
(SIDENOTE: Did anyone catch these 2 announcers? Horible).


TOUCHDOWN RAIDERS!!!!!!!! vs. score san diego (ugghhh)

Everytime Raiders did something well, it was shouted...anything positve Bolts did, blahhh...

[The Lone Bolt]

Thanks for the file though, rep to you. I still see hands on the arm prior to the ball getting there.

Disagree. Hart (the defender with his back to the ball) puts his arm up to block Moss' view and the ball. Perfectly legal. If he had grabbed Moss' arm or knocked him down before the ball got there (which this replay does not conclusively show) it would be PI. Hart's and Moss' hands touch at one point I think but that is incidental if it happens at all.

Good non-call.

[L.T.21]

And I make another assertion here....


Would you admit you are biased to the Bolts viewpoint???

And you don't see PI????

and the Ref didn't see PI???

Even though everyone else including commentators do see PI???

Can you see why we, as Raider fans get a bit suspicious when this happens every dam week???

The same announcers that didnt know the difference between offsides on defense vs. false start on offense stops play?

The same announcers who did know what a cover 2 scheme is? The same announcer who didnt know the Chargers run a 3-4 defense?

[The Lone Bolt]

And I make another assertion here....


Would you admit you are biased to the Bolts viewpoint???

And you don't see PI????

and the Ref didn't see PI???

Even though everyone else including commentators do see PI???

Can you see why we, as Raider fans get a bit suspicious when this happens every dam week???

Maybe I'm biased, but the objective truth is that there simply is no indesputable evidence (from this angle) to support a PI call.

[Snoop750]

Hands on the arm, AND, the guy who goes up without playing the ball... and gets there first...

First you try to assert that if a DB touches the ball, its not PI, then you just don't see it???

Both are pass interference and should have been called...

Even the announcers, who are very carefull about talking about bad ref'n talked about it at the game.... if you don't see PI there ... wow... just wow... take off yer blinders....

But then... I guess it all depends on what is... is....

To comment on your post. I think if I were a dolt fan, this play would be as fair as can be. If we would have done this to one of their players would it have been called?? Same goes with rushing the passer, and the PI on Nmandi. If those acts would have been committed on us, it would have been good defense on the Nmandi play, and way to control yourself on the rushing the passer. I honestly think that someone could put together a video of plays called against us & not.

starting against kc, the td taken away from Moss.
Then in this game...pass interference phantom call on Nmandi....roughing the passer call (phantom again in my opinion)...and then the non-pass interference on Moss!!! *WORD OF ADVICE: Oakland Raider fans dont try to get a chefs fan or a dolts fan to admit to these calls being wrong. It helped with a victory in both cases so in their world its just another calll**

[L.T.21]

To comment on your post. I think if I were a dolt fan, this play would be as fair as can be. If we would have done this to one of their players would it have been called?? Same goes with rushing the passer, and the PI on Nmandi. If those acts would have been committed on us, it would have been good defense on the Nmandi play, and way to control yourself on the rushing the passer. I honestly think that someone could put together a video of plays called against us & not.

starting against kc, the td taken away from Moss.
Then in this game...pass interference phantom call on Nmandi....roughing the passer call (phantom again in my opinion)...and then the non-pass interference on Moss!!! *WORD OF ADVICE: Oakland Raider fans dont try to get a chefs fan or a dolts fan to admit to these calls being wrong. It helped with a victory in both cases so in their world its just another calll**

Wasnt the roughing the passer call because of contact with the helmet? Which caused us the game vs. the Cowpokes BTW.

[romeo13]

Wasnt the roughing the passer call because of contact with the helmet? Which caused us the game vs. the Cowpokes BTW.

Ref was behind the QB, saw his arm drop inline with the helmet... did NOT see any contact... physicaly impossible to see it... QBs head didn't even move... Arm touched his shoulder.... flag....


Moss pushoff in the first game... same thing... Ref BEHIND Moss, could not possibly have seen any shoving... as Moss was between the Ref and the Defender... Moss goes up, makes the catch, and even though did not push off... very late Flag....

Raiders... the only team who seems to get called not by what the Refs see, but by what MAY have happened....

[Mr.Murder]

Collins got nailed after his throw in the secoind half, no call.

A double standard displayed in the same game. No way you can deny it.

[RaiderBeast]

Raider Vs. Chiefs: Moss TD, Raiders win..

[L.T.21]