The score at half time is a better judge of the teams. Tui needs reps in case KC gets hurt.
I know it's just a preseason game, but it would be nice to win. Walter should be good in the future, but right now he's missing a lot. If we ran him with the second team (which may actually help him), and ran Tui with the 3rd, in the event the second half was difficult, and we were down, who do you think would give us a better chance to win? I say definately Tui.
Preseason and isn't the score at the end of the first the final?
I'd like to see Tui more before he leaves, I wonder if Swapping them each drive for the three quarters would be counter productive and keep them from getting into a rythm... I'd probably try that if it was me though.
well Tui does have success mopping up against 3rd string scrubs we know that.
But I would prefer like to see Collins for a series, then Tui the rest of the first half. Then Walter until about the final series and let either Engman or Rivers hand the ball off a few times to end the game...
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we wont be behind in the score.....to the whiners please......keep tui in 2nd.......the rook 3rd....
Tui has had more experience in working in the system and with the WR (except Moss obviously), the OL, and the TEs. The 2nd string this year is Tui's to lose.
Tui can't be 3rd string.
Tui doesn;t belong on the team anymore - he cannot throw the types of throws that our offense/ WRs require.
He'd be perfect with the Jets or Bucs - his chance here came and went.
He should have been named starter after the 2002 season if you ask me.
This is a Collins/ Walter offense now and hopefully wil be for a long time.
I like the kid and recognize he is a winner, but him in this O is like Sapp at DE.
Oh, I know that, but I think late in the game he gives us the best chance to overcome any problems we may have, that's all I'm saying. He's definately still No. 2. Aw, I guess it wouldn't be fair really to **** with them like that.Originally Posted by RaiderOfTheSith
exactlyOriginally Posted by nor_cal_raider7
I might be wrong, but I don't think Walter even needs to see the field. If something happens and we need Tui to step up, he needs all the time he can get to make himself comfortable with the types of throws this offense requires. If things came down to Walter having to start, we'd be screwed anyway. I don't think reps in a preseason game would get him any closer to starting.
Originally Posted by RealTime
Can you back up this statement with facts or is it just your assumption? I know this may come across like I'm starting sh*t, but it's a serious question...
That is true, If walter has to start this season we will have to worry..unless he has a Big Ben type of year!!Originally Posted by phonicsmonkey
Can we define facts as what I have seen with my two eyes? The guy's arm just does not have the power for the vertical game we're playing now.
A lot of folks talk about Collin's accuracy problems ... I can't imagine the picks we'd be throwing with Tui trying the same stunts.
He's a scrambler/ runner/ and winner I do agree, but setting him in here would really be ****ing with him as he's got no chance.
I guess one could look up his avg. yards per pass vs. Collins or any other down-field offense's QB (Warner, Culpepper, etc.) but I spend my time only here and Raiders.com. (pics, interviews, etc.)
I'm that guy that never spent two minutes on homework - I cheat
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