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11 reasons to trade down and get defensive players

Priest Holmes (twice), Clinton Portis (twice), Ladanian Tomlinson (twice), Deuce McCallister, Travis Henry, Domanick Davis, Edgerrin James and Stephen Davis.
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Reasons to draft Fitzgerald:

Brown, Gabriel, Whitted.
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Agree on Trading down

I was just looking at the player profiles on The Huddle Report and read up a bit on Sean Taylor at Safety. This site is hot on him. Here's what The Huddle Report had to say:

Here is the deal. If you need an impact DB and you have the first pick in this draft, you are an idiot if you do not pick this kid. Excuse me! What part of idiot don't you understand? Don't start giving me that garbage about, "How can you pick a DB as the first pick in the draft?" I am so sick and tired of hearing people say that. Do you realize how many impact players where not picked as the first player in the draft because of this idiotic thought process? An impact player is an impact player. Sean Taylor is an impact player. He will be able to free up a Linebacker for the rush because he is big enough to handle the TE by himself. He can play single deep coverage because he has the speed to go sideline to sideline. He can be brought up to the line of scrimmage and used as an extra linebacker in run-downs. He hits like a coin dropped from the Empire State Building. The biggest problem that I see with Sean is if he gets injured, the coaches will have nobody on the team that can even come close (see, thehuddlereport.com)

Now I'm not going to jump on the Taylor bandwagon just yet, but this team absolutely needs help at safety and on the defensive pass rush. If we can shore those two areas up for next year, our defense should be able to keep the games close and we will be competative (I assume we keep Buchanon at a corner and franchise Woodson for the other corner, Assomughwa will play the nickle).

If Taylor is as good as some draft boards say he is, I would like to see us trade down three or four spots snatch him up and get an extra 2nd or a 3rd and 5th. I would then draft the best D-Lineman still available in the second round, be that defensive tackle or defensive end.

The other way of doing this is to draft a player on the D-Line with the 1st round pick (Udeze-DE, U.S.C or Wilfork-DT, Miami) and pick up a safety with the second round pick.

Bottom line, I think the team has enough of a core on offense to be competative, i.e., score 14 to 21 points per game. We won't have the fire-power this year to blow teams out with a high power offense. Continue to focus on the Defense, get a pass-rush and a lock-down secondary and we will compete with teams this year.
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from day one ive wanted this guy. But, i dont see it happening as early as #2
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Taylor...an impact player

Right, so who do you think would trade with us in a move down scenario to get him? Where do we have to "jump back in" in order to get him? The more I read about him, the more I think he could be the core of our future 46 defense.

Has a safety ever been taken with a top four pick?
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Re: Taylor...an impact player

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Has a safety ever been taken with a top four pick?
I believe the highest safety was Roy Williams to Dallas at #8... but don't hold me to it...

You can check here:

http://www.drafthistory.com/positions/db.html
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