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Old 04-25-2003, 03:21 AM
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Dr. Z on crack (go figure)

New SI, and their mock is the worst I have seen so far (except for Matt Gambil's)
What a dumbass
LJ Smith Rutgers TE
TE? WHat the **** is he high on?

Wheels, wobble, but they don't fall down
What a joke, I mean really. Al doesn't even think about TE in this draft.
OK, next one is......
Vince Manawai G Hawaii
OK, that's bad, but let's see why he wants him.
"They're line was manhandled in SB 37"
WE WERE ****ING MANHANDLED BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE BARRETT ****ING ROBBINS!!!
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what a whack job he is.....WOW, that was worse than what Kiper picks....A TE when he have Jolley, and a guard? unexplainable
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do you have a copy of the mock???
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Yes I do
1
Bengals
Carson Palmer, QB, Southern Cal
New coach, new quarterback. Marvin Lewis ushers in what he hopes will be a brighter era in Cincinnati with the highest-rated passer on the board.

2
Lions
Charles Rogers, WR, Michigan State
Detroit's worst fear: Houston trades into the top spot to get this talented 200-pounder who covers the 40 in the 4.30s.

3
Texans
Andre Johnson, WR, Miami
Last year they loaded up on defense; now they get help for young QB David Carr. Johnson's numbers -- 230 pounds, 4.28 speed -- are out of sight.

4
Bears
Dewayne Robertson, DT, Kentucky
Great workouts made him one of the hottest players in the weeks leading up to the draft. This short (6'1") and explosive 324-pounder has run a 4.84.

5
Saints *
Terence Newman, CB, Kansas State
Desperate for a cornerback, Jim Haslett engineers a trade with Dallas, giving up his two first-round choices (Nos. 17 and 18) to get the flashiest defensive back on the board.

6
Cardinals
Terrell Suggs DE, Arizona State
Big-time sacker. "We've got to put the QB on the ground," says coach Dave McGinnis, whose team had only 65 sacks over the past three seasons.

7
Vikings
Jimmy Kennedy, DT, Penn State
"We've got a 6'8", 285-pound coach and 250-pound linemen," says coach Mike Tice. "We've got to get big." The 323-pound Kennedy qualifies.

8
Jaguars
Byron Leftwich, QB, Marshall
Jacksonville is getting ready to say goodbye to the Mark Brunell era. Some rate Leftwich as the nation's best pure passer.

9
Panthers
Jordan Gross, T, Utah
If Leftwich is still there, he could be the pick, but nobody's complaining about getting the quickest and most athletic tackle.

10
Cowboys*
Marcus Trufant, CB, Washington State
Dallas trades back up from No. 17 with Baltimore to select Trufant, a talented pass defender who's coveted by several teams.

11
Seahawks
Kevin Williams, DT, Oklahoma State
Mike Holmgren might still trade up so he can grab Trufant, but if he's gone Seattle will settle for muscle up front.

12
Rams
Kwame Harris, T, Stanford
Can play guard or tackle to help rebuild the wall in front of Kurt Warner. But Trufant is the guy St. Louis really wants.

13
Jets (from Skins)
Johnathan Sullivan, DT, Georgia
They want serious defensive muscle with their first pick and then will go for a wideout at No. 22.

14
Patriots (from Bills)
Ty Warren, DT, Texas A&M
It'll be defense all the way for New England. First the Pats take care of the line, then the secondary five spots later.

15
Chargers
William Joseph, DT, Miami
San Diego's still a bit nervous about the return of Jamal Williams, who dislocated his ankle last year. Joseph's a pocket pusher, a force if needed.

16
Chiefs
Boss Bailey, LB Georgia
His workouts were impressive, but a knee injury drops him to the middle of the round. Dick Vermeil wants him on the strong side.

17
Ravens*
Kyle Boller, QB, California
The quarterback they really want is Leftwich, but they'll trade down from No. 10 and gamble that Boller is still on the board.

18
Cowboys*
Eric Steinbach, G, Iowa
Taking a guard in the first round is unusual for Bill Parcells, but Steinbach, the speediest interior lineman in the draft, is too good an athlete to pass up.

19
Patriots
Sammy Davis, CB, Texas A&M
They had the oldest defense in the NFL last season, but the draft will give them youth, and Davis provides 4.41 speed.

20
Broncos
Jerome McDougle, DE, Miami
A pass rusher for the right side, and if newly acquired DT Daryl Gardener is on his game, Denver will have an impressive front four.

21
Browns
Jeff Faine, C, Notre Dame
Too high for a center? Butch Davis doesn't think so. Picture a young Dermontti Dawson -- quick off the ball, exceptional blocking range -- and that's Faine.

22
Jets
Taylor Jacobs, WR, Florida
Strictly a need pick to cover the departure of Laveranues Coles. Good size (6 feet, 205) and speed (4.37). Set school record with 246 yards receiving against UAB.

23
Bills (from Falcons)
Michael Haynes, DE, Penn State
The Senior Bowl defensive MVP will fit nicely into a unit that has added such big league talent as LBs Takeo Spikes and Jeff Posey.

24
Colts
Troy Polamalu, SS, Southern Cal
Another player whose stock soared late. Polamalu, with 4.34 speed, reminds some of storied Trojans Ronnie Lott and Dennis Smith.

25
Giants
Kenny Peterson, DT-DE, Ohio State
Texas A&M's Ty Warren or Nebraska's Chris Kelsay could go here. So could Harris, the Stanford tackle, if the D-linemen are gone.

26
49ers
Chris Kelsay, DE, Nebraska
With free agent Chike Okeafor off to Seattle, San Francisco needs a strongside wingman to take the heat off DE Andre Carter.

27
Steelers
Larry Johnson, RB, Penn State
A running back finally gets picked. There is sentiment in the Pittsburgh draft room for QB Rex Grossman, but the talented Johnson represents excellent value here.

28
Titans
Eugene Wilson, CB Illinois
Tennessee took three DBs in the first four rounds last year, but the Titans won't quit until they get it right. Wilson has good coverage instincts in man and zone defenses.

29
Packers
Rex Grossman, QB, Florida
Obviously not a need pick, but another one of those "we can't believe he's still there" selections.

30
Eagles
Willis McGahee, RB, Miami
"We're playing a pat hand," Andy Reid says. "We can afford to look to the future." Serious knee rehab probably will keep this dynamic back out until 2004.

31
Raiders
L.J. Smith, TE, Rutgers
Never look for the obvious when Oakland's on the clock. A workout wonder with real upside, Smith will combine with Doug Jolley to provide a double threat at tight end.

32
Raiders (from Bucs)
Vince Manuwai, G, Hawaii
A roughneck type, sturdy and tough. Oakland can't forget how its line was manhandled in the Super Bowl.

STUPID ****ING DUMBASS
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From Liebo: Vince Manawai G Hawaii
OK, that's bad, but let's see why he wants him.
"They're line was manhandled in SB 37"
not that bad, he is a solid football player...and his team mate Wayne Hunter who is also a Guard! Both are consider projects with alot of ability and good upside.
As for our line in SB, helll yeah we got manhandled, i dont give a F if we didnt have Brobb, we still got manhandled, the players that played know this and we all know this. Sims and kennedy got killed off the edges....STill hurts to think about it!
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I'd say that he's really going out on a limb with that draft....
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Z hates the Raiders. No way do we draft either one of those guys in the 1st round.

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