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Old 03-08-2003, 05:42 AM
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Thumbs up Another mock draft

Latest two-round mock from Ourlads scouting. I posted an earlier version at the Merc forum, but this is the newest, dated March 2.

I don't endorse their picks, I merely post. I subscribe to their newsletter and stuff and find their site has a nice (updated daily) depth chart for each team.

Discuss amongst yourselves.

ROUND ONE

1. Cincinnati Leftwich, Byron QB Marshall
2. Detroit Rogers, Charles WR Michigan St.
3. Houston Gross, Jordan T Utah
4. Chicago Palmer, Carson QB USC
5. Dallas Kennedy, Jimmy DT Penn St.
6. Arizona Suggs, Terrell DE Arizona St.
7. Minnesota Newman, Terence CB Kansas St.
8. Jacksonville Johnson, Andre WR Miami (Fla)
9. Carolina Boller, Kyle QB California
10. Baltimore Harris, Kwame T Stanford
11. Seattle McDougle, Jerome DE Miami (Fla)
12. St. Louis Trufant, Marcus CB Washington St.
13. Washington Robertson, Dewayne DT Kentucky
14. New England (f/Buf) Joseph, William DT Miami (Fla)
15. San Diego Kelsay, Chris DE Nebraska
16. Kansas City Williams, Kevin DT Oklahoma St.
17. New Orleans Henderson, E.J. LB Maryland
18. New Orleans (f/Mia) Polamalu, Troy S USC
19. New England Johnson, Larry RB Penn St.
20. Denver Sullivan, Johnathan DT Georgia
21. Cleveland Steinbach, Eric G Iowa
22. N.Y. Jets Battle, Julian S Tennessee
23. Atlanta Faine, Jeff C Notre Dame
24. Indianapolis Pierce, Terry LB Kansas St.
25. N.Y. Giants Haynes, Michael DE Penn St.
26. San Francisco Clark, Dallas TE Iowa
27. Pittsburgh Woolfolk, Andre S Oklahoma
28. Tennessee Johnson, Al C Wisconsin
29. Green Bay Long, Rien DT Washington St.
30. Philadelphia Witten, Jason TE Tennessee
31. Oakland Jacobs, Taylor WR Florida
32. Oakland (f/TB) Grossman, Rex QB Florida


ROUND TWO

33. Cincinnati Florence, Drayton CB Tuskegee
34. Detroit Bailey, Boss LB Georgia
35. Chicago Brayton, Tyler DE Colorado
36. Houston Fargas, Justin RB USC
37. Arizona Johnson, Bryant WR Penn St.
38. Dallas Williams, Brett T Florida St.
39. Jacksonville Hayes, Gerald LB Pittsburgh
40. Minnesota Doss, Mike S Ohio St.
41. Baltimore Curtis, Kevin WR Utah St.
42. Seattle Mathis, Rashean S Bethune-Cookman
43. St. Louis Manuwai, Vince G Hawaii
44. Washington Joppru, Bennie TE Michigan
45. Carolina Suggs, Lee RB Virginia Tech
46. San Diego Edwards, Terrence WR Georgia
47. Kansas City Peterson, Kenny DE Ohio St.
48. Buffalo Redding, Cory DE Texas
49. Miami Calico, Tyrone WR Middle Tennessee
50. New England Warren, Ty DT Texas A&M
51. Denver Davis, Sammy CB Texas A&M
52. Cleveland Foster, George T Georgia
53. N.Y. Jets Barnett, Nick LB Oregon St.
54. New Orleans Eason, Nick DT Clemson
55. Atlanta Lloyd, Brandon WR Illinois
56. N.Y. Giants Wilhelm, Matt LB Ohio St.
57. San Francisco Moore, Rashad DT Tennessee
58. Indianapolis Garrett, Kevin CB SMU
59. Pittsburgh Stinchcomb, Jon T Georgia
60. Tennessee Simms, Chris QB Texas
61. Philadelphia Briggs, Lance LB Arizona
62. Philadelphia (f/GB) McGahee, Willis RB Miami (Fla)
63. Oakland Brown, Chris RB Colorado
64. Tampa Bay Nelson, Bruce C Iowa
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Old 03-08-2003, 11:54 PM
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Terrible mock, no way will we go 3 picks without getting defense


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Old 03-09-2003, 05:00 AM
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Not My Favorite Mock Either

We need in the following order:

Immediately

(1) DT - decent chance of getting a potential starter in draft
(2) DE - low probability of getting a potential starter in draft

Short term

(3) WR - good chance for a future starter in this draft in 2nd rd
(4) RB - good chance of getting a decent player in 3rd/4th rds

Long term

(5) OL
(6) LB
(7) CB
(8) S

Not sold on Taylor as our WR (can he return punts too?). Hate Brown as a RB (not fast enough and runs too straight-up).

I am on the fence with Grossman. He is short for a QB (6"1') and played at Florida (system QB?). But so-called experts keep talking about him and Chris Simms. Supposedly Grossman is mobile, has a strong arm and can play. Is he better than Tui?

There seems to be value at the WR and CB/S position when we draft. If that is the case then I would not be surprised if we use our 1st rd picks on WR and CB/S. If we sign Harrison we will not need the S.

I guess the rule is that if a you have the chance to grab a good QB you do it, since they always have value, you can get something back in a trade...

But I want to win now and if we don't win next year then I blow up the team and take my lumps for a few years. I find out if Tui can play and if not, then I have lousy record and high pick to take a really good QB anyway. So I would not take a QB now...
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Old 03-09-2003, 05:51 AM
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If we sign a DE or DT we may not draft one in the first. If we want a RB this year we will need a first round pick.
I don't see us getting a QB till the 6th or 7th

I want to wait to see who we sign before deciding who we might go after in the first second rounds.
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Old 03-10-2003, 01:05 AM
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Yep, because if we get Douglas then we dont need a DE in the 1st.
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did this "ourlads" guy and Mel Kiper have a slumber party together recently?? I enjoy ourlads, it is one of the best out there when it comes to scouting info, but c'mon.........using our first three picks on "O" and they wouldn't contribute this year or even in 2004....what a piss poor mock.
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did this "ourlads" guy and Mel Kiper have a slumber party together recently?? I enjoy ourlads, it is one of the best out there when it comes to scouting info, but c'mon.........using our first three picks on "O" and they wouldn't contribute this year or even in 2004....what a piss poor mock.
They do their draft weird.

I post it merely out of interest. I prefer their scouting to their mocks, too.

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The guy goes onto a Dirt road with his first pick

Leftwitch will not go ahead Palmer,
Boller(QB) will not be a top TEN draft pick,
Boss Bailey will not be around after the first
Doss will go before Polamalu,
and lastly: if the Raiders take all 4th Strings with their first 3 Picks I'll chop my left testicle off

Thats right! you can hold me to it...Cause this Mock Draft has about as much logic as Choppin a Testicle does, so thats my deal!

Think about it:
Rice, Porter, Brown, JACOBS... not even taking Jolley into acct.

Gannon, Tui, Tee Martin, GROSSMAN ( would not make the team)

Garner, Wheatley (hopefully), Crockett, BROWN???
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I'll go with popular belief here and say....

What the **** does this guy get paid? He must just sit on his coach eating potatoe chips all day. What a bad mock draft.

The first 9 weren't bad, but any idiot with 10 minutes and the internet could come up with that. Kyle Boller at 10??? Yes, he's moved into the late first round....possibly....but teams are shying away from taking QB's early and this guy was never talked about in even the 2nd round until the combine. Now suddenly he's the 10th best player on the board??
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Thumbs down Way Off

First of all, I don't think we will sit on the last two picks in the first round, we will either trade them both to get in to the top 5 or trade one to get into the top 20. There is no way we draft offense in the first round, there are to many questions at DE to do that.
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