Garner vs Martin

[BK]

[b:8415e599b6]Martin 2002 stats:[/b:8415e599b6]

[i:8415e599b6]Rushing[/i:8415e599b6]
261 Attempts 1094 yards 7 TD

[i:8415e599b6]Receiving[/i:8415e599b6]
49 attempts 362 yards 0 TD

[b:8415e599b6]Garner 2002 stats:[/b:8415e599b6]

[i:8415e599b6]Rushing[/i:8415e599b6]
182 Attempts 962 yards 7 TD

[i:8415e599b6]Receiving[/i:8415e599b6]
91 attempts 941 yards 4 TD

[b:8415e599b6]Totals:[/b:8415e599b6]
Martin 1456 yards 7 TD
Garner 1903 yards 11 TD

[b:8415e599b6]ANY QUESTIONS?[/b:8415e599b6]

[JetFanNJ]

[quote:982f8d6972="raiders2002"][b:982f8d6972]Martin 2002 stats:[/b:982f8d6972]

[i:982f8d6972]Rushing[/i:982f8d6972]
261 Attempts 1094 yards 7 TD

[i:982f8d6972]Receiving[/i:982f8d6972]
49 attempts 362 yards 0 TD

[b:982f8d6972]Garner 2002 stats:[/b:982f8d6972]

[i:982f8d6972]Rushing[/i:982f8d6972]
182 Attempts 962 yards 7 TD

[i:982f8d6972]Receiving[/i:982f8d6972]
91 attempts 941 yards 4 TD

[b:982f8d6972]Totals:[/b:982f8d6972]
Martin 1456 yards 7 TD
Garner 1903 yards 11 TD

[b:982f8d6972]ANY QUESTIONS?[/b:982f8d6972][/quote:982f8d6972]

Yes, I have a question. How is your defense going to deal with Lamont Jordan who rushed for 102 yards and 2 TDs on Saturday?

If your defense doesn't stop the run, you're in for a loooooong day Sunday. Chad is the best play faker in the NFL and has been having plenty of time to throw. For your sake, I hope your secondary is 110% healthwise, otherwise it's not even going to be close.

[BK]

Martin only had 28 yards rushing last time, we are ranked #3 against the run. Check out the rest of the comparisons:

[quote:0451931614="raiders2002"]The number in parentheses indicates the team's NFL rank.


[b:0451931614]Total Offense [/b:0451931614]
Jets 314.8 (22)
Raiders 389.8 (1)
[b:0451931614]Scoring Offense [/b:0451931614]
Jets 22.4 (15)
Raiders 28.1 (2)
[b:0451931614]Passing Offense [/b:0451931614]
Jets 226.2 (17)
Raiders 293.1 (1)
[b:0451931614]Rushing Offense [/b:0451931614]
Jets 101.1 (22)
Raiders 110.1 (18)
[b:0451931614]Total Defense [/b:0451931614]
Jets 341.4 (24)
Raiders 311.2 (11)
[b:0451931614]Scoring Defense[/b:0451931614]
Jets 21.0 (14)
Raiders 19.0 (6)
[b:0451931614]Passing Defense [/b:0451931614]
Jets 218.1 (21)
Raiders 220.4 (23)
[b:0451931614]Rushing Defense [/b:0451931614]
Jets 123.3 (18)
Raiders 90.8 (3)

+ who's got the home field advantage?[/quote:0451931614]

Charles Woodson will play, although he might not be 100%, he just had a metal plate inserted in his leg, he has/had a hairline fracture in his fibula.

[JetFanNJ]

[quote:3aad10ceac="raiders2002"][b:3aad10ceac]Martin 2002 stats:[/b:3aad10ceac]

[i:3aad10ceac]Rushing[/i:3aad10ceac]
261 Attempts 1094 yards 7 TD

[i:3aad10ceac]Receiving[/i:3aad10ceac]
49 attempts 362 yards 0 TD

[b:3aad10ceac]Garner 2002 stats:[/b:3aad10ceac]

[i:3aad10ceac]Rushing[/i:3aad10ceac]
182 Attempts 962 yards 7 TD

[i:3aad10ceac]Receiving[/i:3aad10ceac]
91 attempts 941 yards 4 TD

[b:3aad10ceac]Totals:[/b:3aad10ceac]
Martin 1456 yards 7 TD
Garner 1903 yards 11 TD

[b:3aad10ceac]ANY QUESTIONS?[/b:3aad10ceac][/quote:3aad10ceac]

Garner = Very good player
Curtis Martin = Hall of famer
Nuff said

[daraydaz]

Martin is not a shoe-in for the HOF. He probably needs several more productive seasons. Both backs are underrated IMO. Garner was the better all-around back this year. I also read a statistic that neither back had fumbled once this year, pretty impressive.

[ShadeTree#55]

Year G GS ATT YD AVG LNG TD REC YDS AVG LNG TD FUM LST
1995 NE 16 15 368 1487 4.0 49 14 30 261 8.7 27 1 5 3
1996 NE 16 15 316 1152 3.6 57 14 46 333 7.2 41 3 4 3
1997 NE 13 13 274 1160 4.2 70 4 41 296 7.2 22 1 3 2
1998 NYJ 15 15 369 1287 3.5 60 8 43 365 8.5 23 1 5 1
1999 NYJ 16 16 367 1464 4.0 50 5 45 259 5.8 34 0 2 0
2000 NYJ 16 16 316 1204 3.8 55 9 70 508 7.3 31 2 2 2
2001 NYJ 16 16 333 1513 4.5 47 10 53 320 6.0 27 0 2 2
2002 NYJ 16 16 261 1094 4.2 35 7 49 362 7.4 28 0 0 0
Total 124 122 2604 10361 4.0 70 71 377 2704 7.2 41 8 23 13

[TommyGreen]

Enough with the yearly stats already! We're in the POST season... Momentum wins in the post season, not stats.

[HunterGreen]

its ok Tommy....let them use their stats....its a Raider fans form of hope...

[daraydaz]

Tommy and Hunter, how cute. Sounds like a couple of castoffs from the Ice Capades. We were comparing Garner's season stats with Martin's. How else are you nitwits going to make an objective non-homeristic decision on who had the better year?

[HunterGreen]

Well daraydaz....

Let me try to break it down so a Raider fan can understand....

Seeing as how there has been overwhelming parity this year in the NFL, you can only base a RB's success by how they are playing at the present time and which RB is playing at a higher level at the present time....That's the only way to compare the two because the stats from the start of the season, especially in a year like this bear no meaning in a season like this...


You do know what [u:515db71755]parity[/u:515db71755] means dont you??

[daraydaz]

What's parity got to do with anything, you're talking about two different issues here? If stats don't mean anything then how do we objectively compare one rb with another? I know stats don't mean dick when it comes playoff time but can you honestly tell me that Martin is having a better year than Garner? Give me something credible to base it on.

[ShadeTree#55]

You can say all you want about Rice and Brown, you can say it about Gannon, but no way in HELL is Garner even close to the RB Martin is.

[RaiderMan]

Yah, they're both good backs. This is going to be a great game; one of these two will be in the SB for sure.