Is CW over rated?

[Bleed]

I don't feel that way. But, he causes a lot needless penalties, at all the wrong times. :oops:

[crizpynutz]

I disagree. Very rarely does CW get penalized, especially when he's healthy. He won't get as many INT's as other CB's, but one of the main reason's is due to his blanket coverage on WR's leaving a QB very little to no room to throw to. What interference penalties he does get are usually due to his aggressive style -- which I wouldn't change. He's the best CB in the NFL.

[RaiderBlitz]

I agree with crizpy, I do think his play been less then best because of injuries this year and will be invaluable in the playoffs.

[stan]

I'm a dolphins fan, IMO Woodson is a great player, but he has been injured way too much the last couple of seasons. Im not sure how the hell he made the pro bowl last year with all the time missed and lack of numbers. Madison also made it last year and he was injured and missed time too, with poor numbers. I guess it is just a popularity contest. So i guess if u look at Woodson's pro bowl selection he is over rated. Its tough to call really cuz everyone knows that if he was healthy he is definately one of the top cb's in the league. Everyone also knows Fred Taylor is a great Rb when completely healthy too...I dont think that is a fair comparison yet, but another injury plagued season or two and it will be...

[SoCalRaider]

The one knock on C-Wood is that he just doesn't rack up the interceptions. A lot of people claim that it because quarterbacks avoid him, but quarterbacks avoided Deion Sanders the same way and Deion still got his picks. C-Wood supposedly has good hands, so I can't figure out why he drops so many would-be interceptions.

The main area where C-Wood seperates himself from every other cornerback in the league is in defending the run. In the first 2 games of this year before the injury, he was the Raiders' leading tackler coming out of the secondary, and a big part of the Raiders' improvement against the run has been due to his return. Woodson's greatest strength, though, is his ability to force fumbles. Last year he lead the league in forced fumbles, and was leading the league again this year before his injury. I think his physical play is the biggest reason C-Wood has gotten 4 consecutive Pro Bowls. In order to silence his critics, he just needs to find a way to hang on to the ball on the few interception opportunities he gets.

[crizpynutz]

I think Cornerback as a position as a whole is graded more on intangibles than anything else. Guys like Madison and Woodson are still highly regarded even without some big numbers because other teams, coaches etc. know what can happen if they are given too many chances to do something.

Things like, forcing teams to throw elsewhere, changing their gameplan around a particular player, being involved in run stopping, blitzing, turnovers, lining up in the slot and both sides of the field, playing against speed, size, etc. etc. etc. These are not things that can be always judged by numbers.

Although the same can be said for other positions, there are definite statistics that are within a player or teams control where as a player in the secondary it's a lot more difficult to control the numbers.

Even other defensive positions can be controlled better. Blitzing LB's on every play will absolutely increase a players sacks, to what degree depends on the players production. A defensive co-ordinator can't control the passes directed toward their own QB.

I don't know, judging who's better than who at any position is and opinion poll for the most part anyways.

[Expo88]

Charles Woodson is, right now, one of those name players tha gets a lot of pub but isn't quite producing what he once was. He has a ton of talent and seems to play as well as he can each week, but he's had so many naggin injuries that he's just not the same player he was during his first couple of seasons. I would also have to concur that Woodson had no right to have been seleted to the Pro Bowl last year as his play was nowhere near "all pro" caliber.

If he's healthy, he's one of the best, but with the way things have been going lately, who knows when that's going to happen again.

[daraydaz]

I'd still take a non 100% Woodson over most of the corners in the league. I think he played through a great deal of pain last year with the turf toe but didn't miss too much playing time. It's no coincidence that we went on on our losing skid when he went down with the injury. Crizp brings out some good points. He's a great run stopper which no one evr talks about as well as a playmaker who makes things happen. Buchanon is a nice compliment to him, not as physical and not a gifted tackler but tremendous speed and another guy who can turn a game around with an INT or PR.

[SeahawkFanatic]

Unfortunately, I'd have to say that Woodson, when healthy, is one of the top 3 corners in the league, with Madison and Barber. Even an injured Woodson is pretty damn good!!! I think I know the main reason that he doesn't put up huge INT numbers. He is ALWAYS on the opposing teams #1 WR. Usually, the #1 WRs in the league are pretty good, especially at the subtle things, like not typing off your route. A good chunk of INTs are due to inexperienced WRs tipping the defense off when they're running a quick hook or out, and the DB jumps the route. Woodson doesn't get too many of these chances, because the guys he's covering aren't often wet behind the ears. No one really trys to burn him on the deep fade, so that wipes out another chunk of INT opportunities. Finally, the biggest chunk of INTs (besides just flat out horrible throws) usually come when a QB tries to jam a ball in the midst of a double team. $hit, didn't Tory James lead the NFL in picks a couple of years ago with the Broncos. We all know he's not that good. He just had a bunch of chances at it because he was always involved in a double team. Woodson is almost exclusively left out on an island. I think he's a hell of a player and deserves whatever recognition that he gets. Hopefully for you guys, he'll get totally healthy for the playoffs.

[stan]

Madison hasnt been playing all that well this year. I think Woodson is still really good while injured but hes not a probowler. I dont think just cuz people arent throwing his way(and yes i got in this arguement with other dolphin fans last year about madison) that he should get recognition for it. What about the healthy corners who play every game and do make the big plays? ARent they more deserving?? I think so, and last year having Woodson and Madison in the pro bowl was a crock of s$%t!!! but thats just my opinion. Healthy he's a top notch corner, ud be hard pressed to pick someone over him. Unhealthy he isnt the same player, still goo but not the player he is when healthy

[SoCalRaider]

For what its worth, the Pro Bowl is a complete joke. Does anybody give a **** about that game, let alone watch it? If you ask me, its really just about Lombardi Trophies and Super Bowl Rings.