OK, go ahead and brag. - Oakland Raiders Forum | Message Board

The Lone Bolt · #1 (**permalink**) 12-09-2002, 09:29 AM

That's what raider fans do best.

I'm going to show you something you aren't familliar with: class.

Your boys won, and deserved to. Good game Raiders!

Clearly, we have some things to work on in the offseason. Our pass rush has been poor this season, and we have to address that. As I predicted, if we give Gannon all day to throw he would give us fits, and he did. Our o-line was a big disappointment. We dominated last time, but not today.

Let me give you a few sage words of advice.

To SoCal: Dude, don't pick fights over football -- it's not worth it. Some day you'll pick a fight with some crazy f--k with a knife or a gun and he'll end it for you. I can't stand raider fans but football is not worth getting hurt or killed over.

And as for the rest of the "raider nation": I don't begrudge you your success, but I hope that someday the raiders understand the difference between "winners" and "Champions".

CHAMPIONS don't need to brag about their victories.

CHAMPIONS handle defeat with grace, AND

CHAMPIONS handle VICTORY with class and dignity.

Someday I hope the Raiders and their fans can be CHAMPIONS instead of just "winners".

Good game guys. Maybe we'll sneak into the playoffs yet!!

xRaider · #2 (**permalink**) 12-09-2002, 09:41 AM

Actually, my friend, that was NOT a good example of class.

Class is coming in and saying, good job, good win, etc. Which you did, but then you ruined it.

"Your boys won, and deserved to. Good game Raiders!" -- This is class!

NOT, "I'm going to show you something you aren't familliar with: class."

OR

"I hope that someday the raiders understand the difference between "winners" and "Champions". "

Either way, kudos to you for coming back. Hopefully you guys can take care of your problems before the playoffs, and we'll see you and your friends again then!

Everybody together for a group hug!
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ccRaider · #3 (**permalink**) 12-09-2002, 09:44 AM

You beat me to it, Bon. That's exactly how I read that post. At least lone bolts heart seemed to start off in the right place, even if the ingrained stereotypes are too much for some people to overcome.

[size=24:f985ebe214]NEXT![/size:f985ebe214][color=red:f985ebe214][/color:f985ebe214]

The Lone Bolt · #4 (**permalink**) 12-09-2002, 09:51 AM

Dude, I dealt with raider fans for 15 years in the bay area. Bragging and loudmouthing is the standard. Don't tell me otherwise, I've been there and I know what I'm talking about.

Get rid of the slogans. Start acting like your **** stinks just like everybody else. We lost but I stand by my position on the raider nation. "The Team of All Decades", "Commitment to Excellence", "Pride and Poise", what do you call that? I call it bragging.

Raider fans still need to learn how to treat other teams fans with a little respect and learn how to handle winning with class. Most of you think that the raider nation is hated because of media bias. I'm here to tell you that it's because, as I said before, nobody likes a braggart! I hope that sinks in!

BK · #5 (**permalink**) 12-09-2002, 10:52 AM

[quote:718cff4f13="The Lone Bolt"][quote:718cff4f13="raiders2002"]This Sunday we will be playing at our 3rd stadium (1st Oakland, 2nd Tempe, AZ, 3rd San Diego) where Raider fans usually outnumber Dolt fans. [/quote:718cff4f13]

BBWWAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I always get such a kick when raiturds fans make this claim! You guys crack me up!!

We do get quite a few 'turd fans carjacking their way to SD, but it's HYSTERICAL the way raiturds fans exaggerate! Every time I read it the number gets bigger: "Oh 50% of the fans at the Q are raider fans . . . 60% are raider fans. . . 70%. . . it's 'our house'"!

LMFAO!!!

Next thing you know,'turd fans are going to be claiming that 110% of the fans in the Q are raiturd fans!! You guys are seriously funny!!

Get ready, 'cause if you thought losing in YOUR OWN CRIB to the Chargers was embarrassing, wait until LT gets another shot at you!! LT will get over 200 yards for the second week in a row, Brees will pass for over 300, and the handful of raiturd-nation gangsta wannabes that do show up will sulk back to their crackhouses on E 14th after they see their playoff hopes get FLUSHED on Sunday!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!![/quote:718cff4f13]

Like I was saying, San Diego will always be our 2nd home away from home. The "Raider Hater" ticket policy they imposed for this game didn't work, the NATION was out in full force today!

Lone Dolt - you were really close with your predictions, what did the mighty LT end up with? 57 yards? How many pics did ****face throw today? 3 ints? You have no class, please don't try to act like you do.

You know beating the **** out of the dolts today was great, but I enjoyed the look on Marty's face when Crockett scored our final touchdown even more so! Even Brent Jones ( Mr Raider Hater) made a classic statement, "Wow, a little Marty Ball for MARTY!"

OAKLAND RAIDERS 9-4 BEST RECORD IN THE AFC, #1 SEED!!

**Rhode Raider** · #6 (**permalink**) 12-09-2002, 10:54 AM

Please don't insult us with your bull****, had the Bolts won, you would have been over here with your lame assed smack. Fact for you, we kicked your asses......Period. Living life as a Bolts fan has warped your sense of reality, to the victor goes the spoils ( and the bragging rights ). Must suck to be you .

The Lone Bolt · #7 (**permalink**) 12-09-2002, 10:56 AM

Yeah yeah yeah,

Brag on. I'm listening.

BK · #8 (**permalink**) 12-09-2002, 11:03 AM

It would be a different story if you came in here to talk football and not the **** you were spewin before the game! Being the asshole you are, you would be the first one to continue your **** talking if the Dolts won today. I was kind enough to tell you that earlier that this is not the same Raiders team the DOlts played back in week 7, this team is running on all cylinders, and dominating their opponents.

Oh yeah, before I get to tell you, go **** yourself, jerkoff!

RaiderBlitz · #9 (**permalink**) 12-09-2002, 11:03 AM

[quote:bd87317afc="The Lone Bolt"]Yeah yeah yeah,

Brag on. I'm listening.[/quote:bd87317afc]

MY TEAM DID MY TALK'N

BK · #10 (**permalink**) 12-09-2002, 11:08 AM

[i:0dfa2d02ee]Raiders take sole possession of first place
from espn.com[/i:0dfa2d02ee]

SAN DIEGO (AP) -- So Rich Gannon, Jerry Rice and the rest of the Oakland Raiders are too old, huh?

They were spry enough to overwhelm the San Diego Chargers' young stars, winning 27-7 on Sunday to take sole possession of first place in the AFC West.

Gannon, who turns 37 on Dec. 20, set an NFL record with his 10th 300-yard game of the season, throwing for 328 yards and breaking a tie with Dan Marino, Warren Moon and Kurt Warner. He was 26-of-41, with no touchdowns and no interceptions, and crossed the 300-yard mark with a 9-yard pass to Rice midway through the fourth quarter.

The Raiders and Chargers came in tied for the division lead, and the Raiders (9-4) turned the showdown into a knockdown, thanks to Gannon, Rice and a defense that handed San Diego's Drew Brees his first career three-interception game.

The rap against the two-time division champion Raiders is that they'll wear down eventually. But they won their fifth straight game and won for the sixth time in seven years in San Diego, where half the crowd of 67,968 was dressed in Raiders silver and black.

San Diego (8-5) has lost four of six since its 6-1 start.

The Raiders led just 13-7 midway through the third quarter but took advantage of a huge momentum swing that started when Brees threw behind Tim Dwight, and Tory James intercepted at the Raiders 13.

Two plays later, the 40-year-old Rice burned rookie cornerback Quentin Jammer, who's 23, by turning a short pass from Gannon into a 56-yard gain. Jammer, San Diego's first-round draft pick, went for the ball and missed, and Rice raced to the San Diego 27 before safety Rodney Harrison tackled him.

Five plays later, Zack Crockett scored on a 1-yard run to give the Raiders some breathing room at 20-7 with 2:12 left in the third quarter. As a rookie seven years ago, Crockett rushed for 147 yards and two touchdowns as Indianapolis upset the defending AFC champion Chargers 35-20 in a wild-card playoff game.

On the next Oakland drive, Gannon hit Rice on a 9-yarder on third-and-5 to go over 300 yards and move the ball to the Chargers 23. Tyrone Wheatley scored on a 4-yard run to make it 27-7. Crockett converted two third-and-one situations on the drive.

LaDainian Tomlinson rushed for 57 yards and one touchdown on 18 carries and set the Chargers' single-season rushing record with 1,375 yards. He broke Natrone Means' 1994 record of 1,350 yards on a 4-yard run up the middle early in the third quarter.

Tomlinson was coming off a team-record 220 yards in a 30-27 overtime win over Denver. On Oct. 20, He ran for 153 yards at Oakland, including a 19-yard touchdown run to win it 27-21 in overtime.

But the Chargers couldn't turn to Tomlinson, because they never had control of the game.

Oakland's Marcus Knight returned the opening kickoff 65 yards to the Chargers 36, setting up Charlie Garner's 4-yard touchdown run. The Raiders made it 10-0 on Sebastian Janikowski's 51-yard field goal on their next drive.

The Chargers pulled to 10-7 when Tomlinson dove over the top of the pile for a 1-yard touchdown with 5:04 left before halftime.

Janikowski was wide left on a 49-yard attempt with 2:24 to go, but then connected from 20 yards out with 13 seconds left, on a drive set up by Rod Woodson's interception.

Rice had seven catches for 113 yards. Brees was 22-of-41 for 259 yards and no touchdowns.

[b:0dfa2d02ee]
The rap against the two-time division champion Raiders is that they'll wear down eventually. But they won their fifth straight game and won for the sixth time in seven years in San Diego, where half the crowd of 67,968 was dressed in Raiders silver and black.[/b:0dfa2d02ee]

The Lone Bolt · #11 (**permalink**) 12-09-2002, 11:14 AM

[quote:3757c63a8f="raiders2002"][i:3757c63a8f]Raiders take sole possession of first place
from espn.com[/i:3757c63a8f]

[b:3757c63a8f]
half the crowd of 67,968 was dressed in Raiders silver and black.[/b:3757c63a8f][/quote:3757c63a8f]

Have any stats to prove that? I'm used to raider fan's BS about how great the raiders are and how big the "raider nation" is. Don't make me laugh!

BK · #12 (**permalink**) 12-09-2002, 11:44 AM

[i:14f9fb0942]From sportsline.com
http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/gamecenter/recap/NFL_20021208_OAK@SD[/i:14f9fb0942]

[quote:14f9fb0942]The two-time division champion Raiders won their fifth straight game and won for the sixth time in seven years in San Diego, where half the crowd of 67,968 was dressed in Raiders silver and black. [/quote:14f9fb0942]

The Lone Bolt · #13 (**permalink**) 12-09-2002, 11:52 AM

Who knows, who cares?

If I could be there, I would be rooting for the CHARGERS win or lose, raider fans or not!!

GOOOOOO BOLTS!!!